The post that was quoted here has been removedI understand your point, but have we gotten to the point wherein gender is as politically charged a distinction as race and religion? Gee. I hope not.
Edit: Though I will point out that race is much harder to detect than gender (I have a nephew who is absolutely dark enough to pass for an Arab, for example), and religion is almost impossible to detect if there is any effort of concealment.
02 Jul 21
@sh76 saidIn the Third Reich, Jews were required to wear a yellow Star of David to help others in identifying them.
I understand your point, but have we gotten to the point wherein gender is as politically charged a distinction as race and religion? Gee. I hope not.
Edit: Though I will point out that race is much harder to detect than gender (I have a nephew who is absolutely dark enough to pass for an Arab, for example), and religion is almost impossible to detect if there is any effort of concealment.
One way of opposing that would have been if most non-Jewish Germans had worn
yellow Stars of David in protest, thus making the symbol useless in identifying Jews.
But that would have required more courage than most people had at that time.
03 Jul 21
@dood111 saidMost of you lot never leave your home town, let alone visit the Middle East.
It will identify LGTBBQ people if they so choose.
Probably not a good idea to have that box checkmarked if you are going to a middle eastern country.
https://www.kgun9.com/news/national-politics/3rd-gender-option-will-soon-be-added-to-us-passports
Go shoot some pool and yee-ha at some hot girls
03 Jul 21
@divegeester saidOn a roll!
Most of you lot never leave your home town, let alone visit the Middle East.
Go shoot some pool and yee-ha at some hot girls
03 Jul 21
@vivify saidHow it will help ? Well a gender-neutral passport will help to make the US the laughing stock of the rest of the world. Also even when travellers land in another country, they will still have to fill out immigration forms which require a M/F box to be checked. In many parts of the world, anything other than straight male or female is frowned upon or persecuted. Often US travellers are clueless about the rules and customs of other countries.
Does it really make their job easier, though? How hard (normally) is it to tell gender if one isn't listed?
And if you *couldn't* tell, how would having gender listed on a passport help with anything?
03 Jul 21
@rajk999 saidIn other words, you can't name anything listing gender would help with.
How it will help ? Well a gender-neutral passport will help to make the US the laughing stock of the rest of the world. Also even when travellers land in another country, they will still have to fill out immigration forms which require a M/F box to be checked. In many parts of the world, anything other than straight male or female is frowned upon or persecuted. Often US travellers are clueless about the rules and customs of other countries.
03 Jul 21
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@rajk999 saidhttps://www.usatoday.com/story/travel/news/2019/06/07/tsa-sued-grandmother-claiming-she-strip-searched-tulsa/1383858001/
Yes. In the case of a body search of a female you would have to get female security officials to do it. Is that not obvious.?
The TSA has publicly stated that the agency does not include strip searches in their protocols.
Try again.