23 Feb 07
Originally posted by der schwarze RitterWhat about them?
What about all the mosques around the world that contributed funding or preached the hatred of the West that bankrolled and the 19 hijackers? Also, don't forget all the Muslims who heard the message but didn't say or do anything to stop it.
The US and its allies took the actions of these 19 terrorists as representative of Islam, and attacked a couple of countries.
Why shouldn't other people see these US soldiers - people paid and trained by the US - as representative of the US as a whole and decide that makes the US worthy of attack?
I'm not advocating that they should, I'm pointing out the double standard.
23 Feb 07
Originally posted by der schwarze RitterYeah, some punishment. 🙄
Tsk, tsk, tsk. Once again scottishinnz, you've gotten it all wrong. The U.S. doesn't endorse this type of behavior -- that's why the perpetrators were put on trial. However, had the situation been reversed, and it was Muslims who raped a Christian girl and murdered her parents, they would have been hailed as heroes and the story would have led the nightly broadcast on Al Jazeera. That's the difference.
23 Feb 07
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military occupations almost always result in horrendous crimes.
the crimes committed do need to be focussed on those people who actually performed the physical act.
the people who forced the military occupation should also have their names tarnished ... anyone should know that military occupation is a rape and pillage of the people who are occupied ... and that is a serious crime.
24 Feb 07
Originally posted by scottishinnzYeah, some comeback, and so typical of dinosaurs that didn't get the word that communism doesn't work. Don't respond to the comment, make some weak statement that has nothing to do with the argument.
Yeah, some punishment. 🙄
It's just impossible for you to ever be wrong about anything, ever. Jeez that must feel great!
24 Feb 07
Originally posted by scottishinnzMaybe. But like I said before. He's not getting any special treatment. That's not unheard of in the states. I would venture a guess that its not unheard of in any western society for a rapist or murderer to get early parole.
Yep, but he'll get parole after 10. I'd bet good money on that.
I will also net that if this man does make it out of prison alive, he will have spent most of his prison time wishing he was dead. I wouldn't expect anyone to take it easy of this man.
24 Feb 07
Originally posted by der schwarze RitterSo far, I haven't seen any reports of any Muslims raping a 14 year old Christian girl then killing her and her whole family in calculated cold blood.
Tsk, tsk, tsk. Once again scottishinnz, you've gotten it all wrong. The U.S. doesn't endorse this type of behavior -- that's why the perpetrators were put on trial. However, had the situation been reversed, and it was Muslims who raped a Christian girl and murdered her parents, they would have been hailed as heroes and the story would have led the nightly broadcast on Al Jazeera. That's the difference.
Apart from that your assumption is absurd. It is what YOU think would happen, which reflects your bigoted view of all Muslims.
24 Feb 07
Originally posted by EsotericWhile I see your point about not judging an entire society on the actions of a few extremists. I'm not sure you can say that a culture that treats women the way they do isn't backwards. Also, while the actions of a few homocide bombers or homocide plane crashers does not make an a culture backwards. The overwhelming societal support for such acts does say something about the culture. I don't know what that tells you, but those two combined tell me that their culture is backwards. Or, maybe broken. I'm still not decided on which one yet.
That’s a matter of your own opinion. What i am saying that all cultures have their evil minority and we shouldn’t judge that culture based on that small representation.
24 Feb 07
Originally posted by GreatSantiniAs we say in Scotland, Shut yer puss. You are going on about communism for what reason precisely?
Yeah, some comeback, and so typical of dinosaurs that didn't get the word that communism doesn't work. Don't respond to the comment, make some weak statement that has nothing to do with the argument.
It's just impossible for you to ever be wrong about anything, ever. Jeez that must feel great!
Some guys murder a little girls whole family, then rape her and murder her. They do this, not as a "crime of passion" or whatever, but in cold blood. It was a pre-meditated, planned act of brutality. And you think that 10 years is really a suitable punishment? Really? Surely, a right winger like you should be screaming to have the guy hanged or some such. Maybe if it'd been 10 years for each atrocity committed it might hit a little closer to the mark.
Oh, and it's not impossible for me to be wrong about things - I've admitted being wrong in the past. I'm just not going to admit being wrong when I ain't.