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US soldier gets 100 years for rape, murder

US soldier gets 100 years for rape, murder

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Originally posted by no1marauder
It wasn't a joke at all - those are funny or at least mildly amusing. It was just another pathetic attempt by a nitwit to be clever and it dismally failed.
nothing's changed ... you still reserve your tenderness for the criminally inclined ... and it wasn't a joke ... it was a jab .... against which you still have no counter ... 32% is quite a lot, if you are one of the families affected ...

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Originally posted by jakejjk
Not so. They most likely committed dozens of crimes before getting caught (see statistics on crimes committed vs. sentences served) and will commit dozens more after release. The 32% were just dumb enough to get caught again.
What statistics can possibly know how many crimes were committed if not by counting convictions?

Do you mean statistics on crimes allegedly committed vs sentences served?

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Originally posted by zeeblebot
nothing's changed ... you still reserve your tenderness for the criminally inclined ... and it wasn't a joke ... it was a jab .... against which you still have no counter ... 32% is quite a lot, if you are one of the families affected ...
Make up your "mind", moron:

and it wasn't a lawyer joke ... it was a no1m joke

and it wasn't a joke

Outside of the fact that you don't know whether I or my family have been affected by violent crime (it's NOYFB, anyway) unless you want to execute everyone who commits any sort of violent crime (that includes simple assaults, robberies where no one is injured, etc. etc.), these people are eventually going to be freed. It's good news that more than 2/3 don't go back and shows that a policy of no parole would keep a lot of people in prison that pose no threat to public safety.

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Oh my goodness, simply pathetic to see the bully of the kindergarten
calling names up and down... again.

Let's make some reading instead:

So long as the loss of the criminal’s freedom is traded off against
gains in the protection of everyone else’s freedom, consequentialist
accounts provide an appealing strategy of vicarious justification. But
once we require that for complete justification freedom must not only
be realized for everyone else but also in the person of the criminal, a
more sophisticated and inclusive strategy is required.


This paper from Hanno Kaiser makes a good start:

http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=788584

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Originally posted by no1marauder
Make up your "mind", moron:

and it wasn't a lawyer joke ... it was a no1m joke

and it wasn't a joke

Outside of the fact that you don't know whether I or my family have been affected by violent crime (it's NOYFB, anyway) unless you want to execute everyone who commits any sort of violent crime (that includes simple assaults, robberies ...[text shortened]... of no parole would keep a lot of people in prison that pose no threat to public safety.
it wasn't a no1m joke, either, but you popping off turned it into one 🙂 ...

that's a good idea ... execute em all ...

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Originally posted by AThousandYoung
What was mentioned in the article is that some of them raped and murdered and some didn't. Right?
No, it does not state that "some did and some did not" rape her.

The article states that three of the men raped her, and a fourth held her during one of the rapes. It does not describe the additional actions of the fourth, and completely fails to mention the fifth. It does not state whether the subject soldier was the first to rape, or not.


The article states that the two convicted soldiers have "pleaded guilty" to the planned rape, actual rape, and murders.

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Originally posted by zeeblebot
execute em all ...
I'd like to patent a lethal serum guaranteed to produce a natural-looking smile on the corpse..."Putting the Cute into Execution".

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Originally posted by SJ247
No, it does not state that "some did and some did not" rape her.

The article states that three of the men raped her, and a fourth held her during one of the rapes. It does not describe the additional actions of the fourth, and completely fails to mention the fifth. It does not state whether the subject soldier was the first to rape, or not.


The arti ...[text shortened]... nvicted soldiers have "pleaded guilty" to the planned rape, actual rape, and murders.
Yes, he was convicted of murder as an accomplice even though he didn't actually kill anyone. This is fairly common. It is still considered worse to be the actual killer for sentencing purposes (generally).

Cortez was convicted of conspiracy to rape, rape, four counts of murder, and other charges including violating a general order by drinking.

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Originally posted by jakejjk

4. The blitz was started by the British??????
Yep. About a fortnight before it started Churchill sent a communication to one of his senior military staff saying words to the effect of: "It would be convenient if the German's were to drop some bombs on London." Shortly after this a German bomber did, as a result of a navigational error, drop it's load of bombs on the East End. What would have been an isolated and unfortunate incident was turned into policy for both sides when the British "retaliated" by carpet bombing Berlin the following night. Hitler was so incensed that he ordered the diversion of the Luftwaffe from attacks on RAF bases, which were crumbling under the pressure, to attacks on major British cities with the result that the RAF were able to rebuild. A strategic masterstroke, but nevertheless a great crime.

I need to do some research before attempting to answer your other points. Although the one about maximising blast rather than firestorm damage is a bit of a sixth form debating point.

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What exactly do you mean by "the blitz"? Blitzkrieg?

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Originally posted by AThousandYoung
What exactly do you mean by "the blitz"? Blitzkrieg?
Christ...The London Blitz, when the Luftwaffe tried to demoralise the British by bombing London instead of focusing on RAF installations. The switch to civilian targets gave the RAF the respite they needed and pretty soon Operation Sealion was definitively shelved.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Blitz

The Blitz is an important London myth. Google "Henry Moore's shelter drawings" for some pictures. JG Ballard reckons that the British still haven't quite got over it...

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Originally posted by Bosse de Nage
Christ...The London Blitz, when the Luftwaffe tried to demoralise the British by bombing London instead of focusing on RAF installations. The switch to civilian targets gave the RAF the respite they needed and pretty soon Operation Sealion was definitively shelved.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Blitz
Wow! Never even heard this term before. You learn something every day.

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Originally posted by AThousandYoung
Wow! Never even heard this term before. You learn something every day.
You've just made a quantum leap in understanding the English.

Anchor your new-found insight by reading Michael Moorcock's novel "Mother London".

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Originally posted by Bosse de Nage
You've just made a quantum leap in understanding the English.

Anchor your new-found insight by reading Michael Moorcock's novel "Mother London".
Moorcock wrote something besides the Elric stories?!

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Originally posted by AThousandYoung
Moorcock wrote something besides the Elric stories?!
A lot more.

http://www.fantasticfiction.co.uk/m/michael-moorcock/

Amongst that lot are some excellent historical novels.

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