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Contrary to right wing screechers, our taxes are just too damn low. Here's a provocative article with the eye-opening facts:

Taxes too high?

Actually, as a share of the nation's economy, Uncle Sam's take this year will be the lowest since 1950, when the Korean War was just getting under way.

And for the third straight year, American families and businesses will pay less in federal taxes than they did under former President George W. Bush, thanks to a weak economy and a growing number of tax breaks for the wealthy and poor alike.

Income tax payments this year will be nearly 13% lower than they were in 2008, the last full year of the Bush presidency. Corporate taxes will be lower by a third, according to projections by the nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office.

The poor economy is largely to blame, with corporate profits down and unemployment up. But so is a tax code that grows each year with new deductions, credits and exemptions. The result is that families making as much as $50,000 can avoid paying federal income taxes, if they have at least two dependent children. Low-income families can actually make a profit from the income tax, and the wealthy can significantly cut their payments.

"The current state of the tax code is simply indefensible," says Sen. Kent Conrad, D-N.D., chairman of the Senate Budget Committee. "It is hemorrhaging revenue."

In the next few years, many can expect to pay more in taxes. Some increases were enacted as part of President Barack Obama's health care overhaul. And many states have raised taxes because -- unlike the federal government -- they have to balance their budgets each year. State tax receipts are projected to increase in all but seven states this year, according to the National Council of State Legislatures.

But in the third year of Obama's presidency, federal taxes are at historic lows. Tax receipts dropped sharply in 2009 as the economy sank into recession. They have since stabilized and are expected to grow by 3% this year. But federal tax revenues won't rebound to pre-recession levels until next year, according to CBO projections.

In the current budget year, federal tax receipts will be equal to 14.8% of the Gross Domestic Product, or GDP, the lowest level since Harry Truman was president. In Bush's last year in office, tax receipts were 17.5% of GDP, just below their 40-year average.

The lack of revenue, combined with big increases in spending, means the federal government will have to borrow 40 cents for every dollar it spends this year. The annual federal budget deficit is projected to reach a record $1.5 trillion.

Lawmakers from both political parties vow to tackle the nation's financial problems.

Republicans in Congress promise big spending cuts, and Obama says he wants to reshape corporate taxes, closing loopholes to pay for lower overall rates. Few in Washington, however, are calling for big tax increases, at least in the short term.

"America's tax system is clearly broken," Donald Marron, a former economic adviser to Bush, told the Senate Budget Committee at a recent hearing. "It fails at its most basic task, which, lest we forget, is raising enough money to pay for the federal government."

At the request of The Associated Press, The Tax Institute at H&R Block compared 2008 and 2010 tax bills for families at various income levels, showing how their taxes have changed since Obama took office. Taxpayers are filing their 2010 tax returns this spring, while 2008 was the last full year that Bush was president. The scenarios assume that each family had the same income, filing status and number of dependent children in both years.

Income tax rates remain unchanged. But many taxpayers are seeing their bills drop under Obama because of more generous tax credits for college students, working families, homebuyers and the working poor. Many of the changes were enacted as part of the big economic stimulus package passed in 2009.

Congress also extended Bush-era tax cuts through 2012. Lawmakers let Obama's Making Work Pay tax credit expire at the end of 2010, but they replaced it with a one-year cut in Social Security payroll taxes that is already showing up in workers' paychecks.


Paying more or less?

A married couple with two young children and a combined income of $25,000 will pay no federal income taxes for 2010. Instead, they'll get a payment of $7,085 -- up from $6,700 in 2008. The larger payment comes mainly from a more generous Earned Income Tax Credit, which provides subsidies to the working poor. They will also get a $1,000-per-child tax credit. The example illustrates how complicated tax returns can be, even for low-income families, said Kathy Pickering, executive director of The Tax Institute at H&R Block.
A married couple with two children, including one in college, and a combined income of $50,000 would pay no federal income taxes, instead getting a payment of $734 from the government this year. However, they did better in 2008 when they netted a $1,234 payment from the government. That's because Obama's Making Work Pay credit was worth less to them than the Bush-era economic stimulus payment they received in 2008.
A single person making $50,000 while paying interest on a student loan would have a 2010 tax bill of $5,325 -- a $63 decrease from 2008. The difference is due to an inflation-based increase in the standard deduction and personal exemption.
A married couple with two children, including one in college, with some modest investments and a combined income of $200,000 will see their federal income tax bill drop by $780, to $28,496. Their tax bill is lower than in 2008 largely because itemized deductions are no longer limited for high-income families.
A rich couple with two kids in college, larger investments and a combined income of $1 million will see their taxes drop by $6,740, to $277,699 in 2010. Their tax bill is lower than in 2008 because they were able to defer a larger portion of their income to retirement accounts, and because itemized deductions are no longer limited for high-income families.

http://money.msn.com/tax-tips/post.aspx?post=d22447c6-ad96-472b-8081-bdb08a4dae07


Somebody's gotta start ponying up; why not those who have gotten the biggest tax breaks over the last 30 years (you know who they are)?

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Originally posted by no1marauder
Contrary to right wing screechers, our taxes are just too damn low. Here's a provocative article with the eye-opening facts:

Taxes too high?

Actually, as a share of the nation's economy, Uncle Sam's take this year will be the lowest since 1950, when the Korean War was just getting under way.

And for the third straight year, America ...[text shortened]... en the biggest tax breaks over the last 30 years (you know who they are)?
Even Reagan realized that with increased spending there must be increased taxation.

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Originally posted by whodey
Even Reagan realized that with increased spending there must be increased taxation.
Hypocrite

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Originally posted by CliffLandin
Hypocrite
How so?

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Originally posted by whodey
How so?
You are always screaming for lower taxes and claiming that Obama is going to raise everyone's taxes and now that it is proven that taxes are the lowest that they have been in 60 years, you deride him for not raising taxes.

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Originally posted by CliffLandin
You are always screaming for lower taxes and claiming that Obama is going to raise everyone's taxes and now that it is proven that taxes are the lowest that they have been in 60 years, you deride him for not raising taxes.
mmmm....thats not exactly true cliffy. but you already know that.

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Originally posted by CliffLandin
You are always screaming for lower taxes and claiming that Obama is going to raise everyone's taxes and now that it is proven that taxes are the lowest that they have been in 60 years, you deride him for not raising taxes.
If you look at my posts, you will see that I opposed the Obama/Republican tax deal. I am sick to death of this current president spending the nation into the ground without paying any political consequences by raising taxes. Instead, he will kick the can down the road for the next regime. By his own words the current path is not sustainable.

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Originally posted by utherpendragon
mmmm....thats not exactly true cliffy. but you already know that.
Ah, and Whodey, Jr. chimes in. What isn't correct? Does Whodey not claim that Obama is going to raise taxes? And not in a faltering way, either. And did he not deride Obama with his Raygun quip?

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Originally posted by whodey
If you look at my posts, you will see that I opposed the Obama/Republican tax deal.
Actually, if we look at your posts we see that you agreed with the 'deal' while it was the Republican position but then opposed it when Obama agreed to it.

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Originally posted by FMF
Actually, if we look at your posts we see that you agreed with the 'deal' while it was the Republican position but then opposed it when Obama agreed to it.
No, I said that with the enless earmarks attached to it and no spending cuts to go along with it that the deal was bad for America.

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Originally posted by whodey
No, I said that with the enless earmarks attached to it and no spending cuts to go along with it that the deal was bad for America.
Your opposition to it started only when Obama signed on. Before that - when it was the Republican's 'demand' - you supported the renewal of the tax cuts. Now you don't support them anymore and you appear to blame Obama for supporting the Republican proposal that you supported back when it looked like Obama might not sign on.

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Originally posted by whodey
If you look at my posts, you will see that I opposed the Obama/Republican tax deal. I am sick to death of this current president spending the nation into the ground without paying any political consequences by raising taxes. Instead, he will kick the can down the road for the next regime. By his own words the current path is not sustainable.
Add "and Congress" to "current president" and I'd fully agree with your post.

Don't let the Republican's rhetoric fool you. A $1 dollar tax cut without a $1 reduction in spending does the same thing to the deficit as $1 dollar of new spending without a commensurate increase in tax revenue.

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Originally posted by telerion
Add "and Congress" to "current president" and I'd fully agree with your post.

Don't let the Republican's rhetoric fool you. A $1 dollar tax cut without a $1 reduction in spending does the same thing to the deficit as $1 dollar of new spending without a commensurate increase in tax revenue.
The way I see it, the Democrats foster stimulus packages of different names and sizes and the Republicans foster tax cuts. Then in the end they both agree to do both with devistating results.

How's that?

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Federal income tax + FICA tax + state income tax + pluss property tax+ pluss sales tax+ taxes for things such as gasoline, ect + things that are a tax in my opinion such as a fishing license, a license for a motor vehicle. Federal income is not the only tax Americans have forced on them.

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Originally posted by gambit3
Federal income tax + FICA tax + state income tax + pluss property tax+ pluss sales tax+ taxes for things such as gasoline, ect + things that are a tax in my opinion such as a fishing license, a license for a motor vehicle. Federal income is not the only tax Americans have forced on them.
There is no sales tax in Oregon. There is no state income tax in Florida or California or many other states. And many states don't have taxes for hunting or fishing licenses, nor for licenses for motor vehicles. And state taxes shouldn't even factor into this discussion.

Taxes are not a bad thing. They pay for most of the things that you take for granted. Where do you think that the money to maintain roads or keep parks clean, comes from? Police, fire, the military? Your taxes aren't forced on you. They are the price you pay for the quality of your life.

You should be happy to pay for these things. Whenever you see a cop on the beat or a fire truck speeding down the road remember that you helped finance that.

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