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@metal-brain said
If the USA wanted to curb Israeli aggression and escalation of aggression it would be easy. Simply threaten to stop giving Israel billions of dollars.

People need to get real. Israel is doing what they are doing because the USA wants them to do it. If the USA wanted to curb Israeli aggression all it has to do is stop sending free weapons to Israel.

Really easy if that was the goal. That is why it is obvious that is not the goal.
Never. First the billions of $$ given to Palestinians will also have to be stopped. You think that will happen? You need to open your eyes to see which parties are fighting here... its not just Israel v Palestinians. I will check into this today, but it is appears that the Palestinians receive more aid than Israel.

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@rajk999 said
Never. First the billions of $$ given to Palestinians will also have to be stopped. You think that will happen? You need to open your eyes to see which parties are fighting here... its not just Israel v Palestinians. I will check into this today, but it is appears that the Palestinians receive more aid than Israel.
You are either making that up or you were misinformed.
No foreign country gets more money from the USA than Israel.

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@kevcvs57 said
Exactly when has the US pretended to not support Israeli aggression?
The answer is never, it’s just that some people are so dense or disingenuous that they would need a POTUS to actually say “we support Israeli aggression” they support it with every foreign policy in the region and beyond.
There is no conspiracy here just thick people deluding themselves.
The USA lies by saying they want peace. Israel started it and have a history of using people as human shields, not Hamas. The whole "Israel has a right to defend itself" is based on a lie. Hamas has a right to defend itself from Israeli aggression.

https://www.cnn.com/2021/05/23/politics/antony-blinken-israel-hamas-ceasefire-cnntv/index.html

Israel is doing exactly what the empire wants them to. That is why the weapons keep flowing to Israel no matter how aggressive they get. It is lip service with no action.

The USA is capable of influencing Israel into a lasting cease fire by threatening to withhold free weapons. There is no need to pretend they don't have a lot of power over Israel unless they are trying to fool you into thinking that they don't.

Are you fooled?

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@metal-brain said
You are either making that up or you were misinformed.
No foreign country gets more money from the USA than Israel.
I realise that you are from the USA and you are one of those who are surprised to find out that the Earth really revolves around the sun, and not areound the USA. So I will repeat myself because many Americans are slow when faced with worldwide information.

Palestinians, I suspect [I will check], receive more aid from worldwide sources than Israel. These sources are UN and other world bodies, plus humanitarian aid from NGOs. What makes this impossible to quantify is hidden aid from Iran and Turkey and other Arab states, information which is not made public. This aid is in the form of grants and arms / weapons. In return Hamas has to provide intelligence on the activities of Israel.

In the case of Israel the US gives aid in the form of a grant which has to be spent in the US. I think it is around $4 Billion US.

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@metal-brain said

The USA is capable of influencing Israel into a lasting cease fire by threatening to withhold free weapons.
You are mistaken. You are overestimating the power of the US. Maybe they had this power some decades ago. Now Israel can make sufficient arms and weapons in their own facilities without the need for the US help. The US help is the icing on the cake.

Israel has developed a significant weapons industry, fueled by the continuous arms embargo from various suppliers over the years. Israels attitude is, if you dont want to sell it to us we will make it ourselves.

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@metal-brain said
Yep, free weapons for Zionists to use on Palestinians.
Shav had the nerve to call that ethical. LOL!

Israel is obviously a tool of the empire. Nobody gives away weapons for free unless those weapons are used for exactly what the empire intended them for. Biden is all for that, just like Trump was and many presidents before them.
I think you’ll find that I didn’t call it ethical at all.

In fact, quite the opposite.

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@metal-brain said
The USA lies by saying they want peace. Israel started it and have a history of using people as human shields, not Hamas. The whole "Israel has a right to defend itself" is based on a lie. Hamas has a right to defend itself from Israeli aggression.

https://www.cnn.com/2021/05/23/politics/antony-blinken-israel-hamas-ceasefire-cnntv/index.html

Israel is doing exactly ...[text shortened]... wer over Israel unless they are trying to fool you into thinking that they don't.

Are you fooled?
“ The USA lies by saying they want peace. Israel started it and have a history of using people as human shields, not Hamas. The whole "Israel has a right to defend itself" is based on a lie. Hamas has a right to defend itself from Israeli aggression. ”

what a fool you are.

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@rajk999 said
I realise that you are from the USA and you are one of those who are surprised to find out that the Earth really revolves around the sun, and not areound the USA. So I will repeat myself because many Americans are slow when faced with worldwide information.

Palestinians, I suspect [I will check], receive more aid from worldwide sources than Israel. These sources are UN a ...[text shortened]... ves aid in the form of a grant which has to be spent in the US. I think it is around $4 Billion US.
WRONG!
Everything you wrote to me applies to you.

https://www.usnews.com/news/best-countries/articles/2021-05-24/afghanistan-israel-largest-recipients-of-us-foreign-aid

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@mott-the-hoople said
“ The USA lies by saying they want peace. Israel started it and have a history of using people as human shields, not Hamas. The whole "Israel has a right to defend itself" is based on a lie. Hamas has a right to defend itself from Israeli aggression. ”

what a fool you are.
Nope. What a fool you are.

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@metal-brain said
Nope. What a fool you are.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xtxA-GsvUnk
I dont watch youtube videos, neither do I defend what I say with youtube videos. I think if you need to do that you have failed. Tell me what your vided says or quote from a website.

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@metal-brain said
WRONG!
Everything you wrote to me applies to you.

https://www.usnews.com/news/best-countries/articles/2021-05-24/afghanistan-israel-largest-recipients-of-us-foreign-aid
Are you right in your head. Im referring to TOTAL AID RECEIVED. Im not talking about US AID. The US is not the only country who gives aid.

Palestinians get more aid from worldwide sources, WORLDWIDE, than Israel.

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@rajk999 said
I dont watch youtube videos, neither do I defend what I say with youtube videos. I think if you need to do that you have failed. Tell me what your vided says or quote from a website.
Israel started it and have a history of using people as human shields, not Hamas.

The video from Kim Iversen (well respected investigative journalist) demonstrates that.

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@rajk999 said
Are you right in your head. Im referring to TOTAL AID RECEIVED. Im not talking about US AID. The US is not the only country who gives aid.

Palestinians get more aid from worldwide sources, WORLDWIDE, than Israel.
Prove it!

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@metal-brain said
Israel started it and have a history of using people as human shields, not Hamas.

The video from Kim Iversen (well respected investigative journalist) demonstrates that.
What did Israel start?

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