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Vaccine lotteries: Litmus test for stupidity.

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@no1marauder said
Here's the fact sheet I was handed before I was given the Pfizer vaccine: https://www.fda.gov/media/144414/download

I don't see anything about "infertility".

EDIT: “There is absolutely no evidence that vaccines, and in particular the COVID-19 vaccines, impact fertility,” said Dr. Jill Rabin, an OB-GYN and professor at the Feinstein Institutes for Medical Research in ...[text shortened]... d-covid-19-vaccines-stop-teens-from-getting-the-shot#The-vaccines-dont-impact-fertility,-experts-say
That is NOT the insert you idiot!

There is no evidence the Covid 19 vaccines do NOT cause infertility. That is why it is listed on the insert!

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@metal-brain said
That is NOT the insert you idiot!

There is no evidence the Covid 19 vaccines do NOT cause infertility. That is why it is listed on the insert!
I’m pretty sure there are people who have become pregnant after having been vaccinated.

Mhmmm?

Yeah. So, as per usual, you’re squealing like a pig in an underground water cavern filled with foam cutouts of trump.

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@metal-brain said
That is NOT the insert you idiot!

There is no evidence the Covid 19 vaccines do NOT cause infertility. That is why it is listed on the insert!
Please provide a link to this "insert".

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@no1marauder said
Please provide a link to this "insert".
I once did just that. Now it is extremely difficult to find online.
You will might need a VPN service to find it.

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https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/what-to-know-about-page-132-of-the-pfizer-vaccine-report/ar-BB1ckkJw

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@metal-brain said
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/what-to-know-about-page-132-of-the-pfizer-vaccine-report/ar-BB1ckkJw
The article debunks your claim:

"The words of warning around these screenshots of these documents—that the Pfizer/BioNTech vaccine causes widespread “infertility” and “birth defects due to genetic manipulation”—are false. There is no evidence to support their claims."

And none of the documents even reference male infertility or sperm counts. The FDA specifically answers a question "infertility in women" this way:

"A: There is no scientific evidence to suggest that the vaccine could cause infertility in women. In addition, infertility is not known to occur as a result of natural COVID-19 disease, further demonstrating that immune responses to the virus, whether induced by infection or a vaccine, are not a cause of infertility. Reports on social media have falsely asserted that the vaccine could cause infertility in women and the FDA is concerned that this misinformation may cause women to avoid vaccination to prevent COVID-19, which is a potentially serious and life-threatening disease. SARS-CoV-2 is the virus that causes COVID-19. The symptoms of COVID-19 vary and are unpredictable; many people have no symptoms or only mild disease, while some have severe respiratory disease including pneumonia and acute respiratory distress syndrome (ARDS), leading to multi-organ failure and death. The Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 vaccine is a mRNA vaccine. It contains a small piece of the SARS-CoV-2 virus’s genetic material that instructs cells in the body to make the virus’s distinctive “spike” protein. After a person is vaccinated, their body produces copies of the spike protein, which does not cause disease, and triggers the immune system to learn to react defensively, producing an immune response against SARS-CoV-2. Contrary to false reports on social media, this protein is not the same as any involved in formation of the placenta."

https://www.fda.gov/emergency-preparedness-and-response/mcm-legal-regulatory-and-policy-framework/pfizer-biontech-covid-19-vaccine-frequently-asked-questions

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@no1marauder said
The article debunks your claim:

"The words of warning around these screenshots of these documents—that the Pfizer/BioNTech vaccine causes widespread “infertility” and “birth defects due to genetic manipulation”—are false. There is no evidence to support their claims."

And none of the documents even reference male infertility or sperm counts. The FDA specifica ...[text shortened]... cm-legal-regulatory-and-policy-framework/pfizer-biontech-covid-19-vaccine-frequently-asked-questions
"The words of warning around these screenshots of these documents—that the Pfizer/BioNTech vaccine causes widespread “infertility” and “birth defects due to genetic manipulation”—are false. There is no evidence to support their claims."

LOL!
I never made any such claim, nor have I heard of such a ridiculous claim until now.

The article does NOT debunk my claim.
I said there is no evidence the vaccine does NOT cause infertility.
That is 100% true.

You are wrong again.

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@metal-brain said
"The words of warning around these screenshots of these documents—that the Pfizer/BioNTech vaccine causes widespread “infertility” and “birth defects due to genetic manipulation”—are false. There is no evidence to support their claims."

LOL!
I never made any such claim, nor have I heard of such a ridiculous claim until now.

The article does NOT debunk my claim.
...[text shortened]... e is no evidence the vaccine does NOT cause infertility.
That is 100% true.

You are wrong again.
I'm sorry; your "point" is even stupider than I thought.

It's called in logic "An Appeal to Ignorance". https://thebestschools.org/magazine/15-logical-fallacies-know/

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@no1marauder said
I'm sorry; your "point" is even stupider than I thought.

It's called in logic "An Appeal to Ignorance". https://thebestschools.org/magazine/15-logical-fallacies-know/
LOL!

It states in plain language, that scientists don’t know if fertility can be impacted by the vaccine. That means there is no proof either way.

You always accuse others of how you feel.
Apparently you feel stupider than ever.

Better luck next time.
😛

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@metal-brain said
LOL!

It states in plain language, that scientists don’t know if fertility can be impacted by the vaccine. That means there is no proof either way.

You always accuse others of how you feel.
Apparently you feel stupider than ever.

Better luck next time.
😛
Do you have any idea how science works?

Apparently not.

The statement "there is no evidence for X" means science rejects X since science is based on evidence. You could say "there is no evidence that the vaccines don't cause your head to explode in one year" with equal validity as your statement.

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@metal-brain said
"The words of warning around these screenshots of these documents—that the Pfizer/BioNTech vaccine causes widespread “infertility” and “birth defects due to genetic manipulation”—are false. There is no evidence to support their claims."

LOL!
I never made any such claim, nor have I heard of such a ridiculous claim until now.

The article does NOT debunk my claim.
...[text shortened]... e is no evidence the vaccine does NOT cause infertility.
That is 100% true.

You are wrong again.
Anyway, you're lying about what you said:

MB: The warning of possible infertility is listed on the insert.

There is no such "warning".

You also claimed Bill Gates had put something in the vaccine to prevent people from breeding: you even said I should "check my sperm count if I dare".

So you weren't merely claiming an absence of evidence.

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@no1marauder said
Anyway, you're lying about what you said:

MB: The warning of possible infertility is listed on the insert.

There is no such "warning".

You also claimed Bill Gates had put something in the vaccine to prevent people from breeding: you even said I should "check my sperm count if I dare".

So you weren't merely claiming an absence of evidence.
LOL!

It states in plain language, that scientists don’t know if fertility can be impacted by the vaccine. That means there is no proof either way.

Saying there is no evidence the vaccine causes infertility does not debunk anything. There is no evidence it does not. Furthermore, Pfizer put that in their insert. Do you think they wanted to put it in the insert? How is that going to help sell their vaccine?

Perhaps you need me to be captain obvious for you since you cannot see the obvious. They did it for legal reasons. They know the possibility of it causing infertility exists so they put the warning in the insert so they don't get sued for knowingly selling a product that could possibly cause infertility.

No vaccine maker would put that in the insert if they didn't have to. It is a warning, a warning to say they did provide that warning. That is how you avoid or minimize lawsuits.

Clearly Pfizer isn't betting it doesn't cause infertility. If they were there would be no warning at all. Common sense.

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@metal-brain said
LOL!

It states in plain language, that scientists don’t know if fertility can be impacted by the vaccine. That means there is no proof either way.

Saying there is no evidence the vaccine causes infertility does not debunk anything. There is no evidence it does not. Furthermore, Pfizer put that in their insert. Do you think they wanted to put it in the insert? How is ...[text shortened]... t betting it doesn't cause infertility. If they were there would be no warning at all. Common sense.
LMFAO!

"There is no evidence that A might cause B" isn't a warning, numskull.

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@no1marauder said
LMFAO!

"There is no evidence that A might cause B" isn't a warning, numskull.
Clearly Pfizer isn't betting it doesn't cause infertility. If they were there would be no warning at all. Common sense.

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