Voter Id Laws

@no1marauder said
I never made any such claim so I'm at a loss as to where you invented this one.

Voter ID laws have generally been upheld by the courts. But just because the SCOTUS has ruled something allowable under the Constitution doesn't mean it is good public policy to deliberately disenfranchise millions of people who would otherwise vote for and to do so for obviously purely partisan reasons.

@no1marauder said
Actually you claimed a nefarious conspiracy where Democrats financed such moves of POC into swing States.

If you wish to withdraw that ridiculous claim, be my guest. If not, present whatever evidence you have that it exists.

@teinosuke said
Well, yes, we could hand out free IDs, but in Britain we've always prided ourselves on not requiring identity cards - they were last compulsory during and surely after World War II, and were seen as an alien imposition on civil liberties. As a boy I was taught to be gently proud of living in a free country where we didn't need to show an ID to perform essential civic duties ...[text shortened]... o it's a pretty big risk. As you might therefore expect, identity fraud is a miniscule problem here.

@no1marauder said
That's exactly the procedure in New York State except you also have to sign your name in the voter book on your page. So someone would have to know your name, know you weren't voting and also do a credible job of faking your signature. And that's assuming the people at the polls don't know you which they often do as precincts are rather small and poll watchers are generally the same folks year after year.

@teinosuke said
Quite. So simple! One would have to work quite hard to devise a voting system that made identity fraud easy. But one doesn't have to work so hard to convince a lot of partisans that it's easy...

@joe-shmo said
That was before I realized that it could be probably be done completely in the open.

I retract...its not nefarious. Its just disgusting politics as usual.

@no1marauder said
I find it "disgusting" you refuse to retract it altogether since you cannot present any evidence such a practice actually exists.

I could think of ways to test this claim but I'm sure right wing propagandists have already thought of them, tried to validate it and failed. And if they didn't even try, then they are relying on the usual gullibility of right wingers like yourself and Earl.

@joe-shmo

So the homeless don't get a vote, that would be the bottom line wouldn't it?

@sonhouse said
@joe-shmo

So the homeless don't get a vote, that would be the bottom line wouldn't it?

@sonhouse said
@joe-shmo

So the homeless don't get a vote, that would be the bottom line wouldn't it?

@joe-shmo said
I’m seeing it with my own eyes. I’m not retracting what I see plain as day. I could understand coming from a racially diverse neighborhood how it could be easily missed, but rural communities are not this way. Race demographics changing by 20% beginning at low percentages practically over night are unmissable.

Like I said, there apparently is nothing illegal about the ...[text shortened]... e. Why waste money investing it? Everyone knows its unethical but they also know it’s unstoppable.

@no1marauder said
I don't rely on anecdotal claims from politically biased posters and neither should anyone else. Extrapolating what you perceive to be happening in your neighborhood to "Democrats paying to move millions of POC across State lines to swing States" is the type of insane conspiracy theory that I suppose is inevitable given the likely result of November's election and the rig ...[text shortened]... to support it, you should be a bit embarrassed to keep stomping your feet and insisting it is true.

@joe-shmo I doubt they are paying anything, that would probably be illegal.

I'm not sure it is illegal. Pay someone to move to New Hampshire for 1 month?
Someone like a George Soros would be happy to persuade the likelys

@earl-of-trumps said
@joe-shmo I doubt they are paying anything, that would probably be illegal.

I'm not sure it is illegal. Pay someone to move to New Hampshire for 1 month?
Someone like a George Soros would be happy to persuade the likelys

@joe-shmo said
Sonhouse, the homeless aren't playing the game. So no, I don't care if this disenfranchises the "homeless" from a game they clearly aren't interested in. And we are talking about an extreme minority of Americans. If you could find some way to include them in the system they are completely outside of, then fine.