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@zahlanzi said
so you need a fukin ar-15? that if you don't hit a coyote with the first bullet, maybe you will hit it with the following 20?
He thinks he's Jeremy Clarkson.

He's not even on that level of gun control.

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@zahlanzi said
so you need a fukin ar-15? that if you don't hit a coyote with the first bullet, maybe you will hit it with the following 20?
No, an AR15 is not needed or even desirable for varmints ....a simple .22 rimfire is more than enough within it's useful range.
I don't recall saying anyone needed an AR for barnyard pest control.

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@mchill - We can't regulate assault weapons-

First of all, assault weapons are fully automatic and are for the military.
the AR-15 is not fully automatic, nor is it an assault weapon. But it does sound scary, eh?

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@earl-of-trumps said
@mchill - We can't regulate assault weapons-

First of all, assault weapons are fully automatic and are for the military.
the AR-15 is not fully automatic, nor is it an assault weapon. But it does sound scary, eh?
"Assault weapons" are a legal definition that includes AR15. Assault Weapon is not the same as Assault Rifle.

https://www.bradyunited.org/fact-sheets/what-are-assault-weapons-and-high-capacity-magazines

An “assault weapon” refers to a semi-automatic gun designed for military use and quick, efficient killing. Assault weapons are uniquely lethal because of their rapid rate of fire and high muzzle velocity — coupled with high-capacity magazines, which attach to an assault weapon to allow dozens of gunshots without needing to reload. A high-capacity magazine is typically defined as any magazine or drum that is capable of holding more than either 10 or 15 rounds of ammunition.


https://www.feinstein.senate.gov/public/index.cfm/assault-weapons-ban-summary

Assault Weapons Ban of 2013

What the bill does:
The legislation bans the sale, transfer, manufacturing and importation of:

All semiautomatic rifles that can accept a detachable magazine and have at least one military feature...

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@jj-adams said
No, an AR15 is not needed or even desirable for varmints ....a simple .22 rimfire is more than enough within it's useful range.
I don't recall saying anyone needed an AR for barnyard pest control.
Ken Buck (R-CO):

"In rural Colorado, an AR-15 is a gun of choice for killing raccoons before they get to our chickens. It is the gun of choice for killing a fox, it is a gun that you control predators on your ranch, on your farm, on your property"

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@AThousandYoung
Ok, that was your definition. here's mine.,

as·sault ri·fle
[assault rifle]
NOUN
a rapid-fire, magazine-fed automatic rifle designed for infantry use.
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I do not want to argue. keep your definition, I;ll keep mine.

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@earl-of-trumps said
@AThousandYoung
Ok, that was your definition. here's mine.,

as·sault ri·fle
[assault rifle]
NOUN
a rapid-fire, magazine-fed automatic rifle designed for infantry use.
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I do not want to argue. keep your definition, I;ll keep mine.
That's "assault rifle". An "assault weapon" is different.

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True.

Distinction from assault weapons
In the United States, selective-fire rifles are legally defined as "machine guns", and civilian ownership of those has been tightly regulated since 1934 under the National Firearms Act and since 1986 under the Firearm Owners Protection Act.[20] However, the term "assault rifle" is often conflated with "assault weapon", a U.S. legal category with varying definitions which includes many semi-automatic weapons. This use has been described as incorrect and a misapplication of the term.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assault_rifle

I have to be careful to not use those terms interchangeably. Assault weapon is incorrect and a misapplication of the term.

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The origin of the term has been attributed to legislators, the firearms industry, gun control groups, and the media. It is often used interchangeably with the term "assault rifle", which traditionally refers to selective fire rifles that use intermediate cartridges

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assault_weapon

Pretty sneaky way to get a semi automatic rifle banned. Make up a new term and call the rifle a weapon instead of rifle. These gun control zealots are clever.

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@metal-brain said
True.

Distinction from assault weapons
In the United States, selective-fire rifles are legally defined as "machine guns", and civilian ownership of those has been tightly regulated since 1934 under the National Firearms Act and since 1986 under the Firearm Owners Protection Act.[20] However, the term "assault rifle" is often conflated with "assault weapon", a U.S. leg ...[text shortened]... o not use those terms interchangeably. Assault weapon is incorrect and a misapplication of the term.
Assault weapon is not "incorrect". It is a legal term statutorily defined by Congress.

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@metal-brain said
The origin of the term has been attributed to legislators, the firearms industry, gun control groups, and the media. It is often used interchangeably with the term "assault rifle", which traditionally refers to selective fire rifles that use intermediate cartridges

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assault_weapon

Pretty sneaky way to get a semi automatic rifle banned. M ...[text shortened]... ke up a new term and call the rifle a weapon instead of rifle. These gun control zealots are clever.
More like pretty sneaky for gun nuts to slightly adjust a weapon of war so it slips though legal loopholes.

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@no1marauder said
Assault weapon is not "incorrect". It is a legal term statutorily defined by Congress.
Yeah, the sneaky gun zealots I was talking about. Congress made it up and made it legal. An assault rifle is fully automatic capable. A semiautomatic is not an assault anything. It is just a rifle.

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@metal-brain said
Raccoons do eat chickens. Do you want us to sacrifice our chickens so raccoons can prosper? You are condoning an egg shortage during an avian flu problem making the shortage worse.

You must be a citiot. An idiot city dweller.
And you must be a real bumpkin....
Oh 'GREAT WHITE HUNTER,' a .22 will kill the animals you mentioned...Don't know if this news has reached the country folks yet/.............There is a type of canine called, a 'WATCHDOG.'

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@athousandyoung said
More like pretty sneaky for gun nuts to slightly adjust a weapon of war so it slips though legal loopholes.
So it has features just like the M16.....except the most important distinction. The AR 15 is not a machine gun. It is a semiautomatic only.

Semiautomatic guns are common. Lots of people have them here in the USA. They will still be legal to buy. They just wont look like the M16, that is all. How will that change anything much?

Is it the high capacity magazines you want to get rid of? It will not get rid of semiautomatics unless you think this is a stepping stone to ban all semiautomatics. Is that it?

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@jimm619 said
And you must be a real bumpkin....
Oh 'GREAT WHITE HUNTER,' a .22 will kill the animals you mentioned...Don't know if this news has reached the country folks yet/.............There is a type of canine called, a 'WATCHDOG.'
Yeah, and people can buy semiautomatic .22s. So what?
If I were to use a high caliper gun is that a bad thing? They are both legal to buy. What does it matter what kind of gun I use to kill varmints? Dead is dead. Are you concerned with a waste of lead?

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