@mghrn55 saidIt does not matter how many die. People die.
When this crisis ends with either millions dead, hundreds of thousands dead, or this whole thing just much ado about nothing or just another flu, what then ?
What do you want going forward ?
What about the media coverage of this pandemic is pissing you off so much ?
Is it that is pushing other items of your agenda off the front burner ?
Are you anxious to have the adm ...[text shortened]... distraction that could hurt Trump's chances at re-election ?
That's what this is about isn't it ??
What matters is how does society change based on how politicians use this to acquire more power.
@mott-the-hoople saidWhy should China be blamed ?
actually many believe Trump is doing a great job with this...many leftist...55% approval. It is china that should be blamed. But you go ahead with you pooter diddling.
22 Mar 20
@no1marauder saidYou can exchange freedom for safety, I am not surprised you would do so. You have always come across as a coward.
Actually what you want to do is sacrifice other people's lives, by the millions if necessary, for extremist ideological reasons.
No thanks.
22 Mar 20
@mghrn55 saidThe death rate is the number of people that die out of the population of people that CATCH the virus, not the entire popultation. Doh.
Hey stupid !!
If we, just for the sake of indulging you, go by your numbers....
Then the number .021 of the population (that's 2.1% ), that dies is ....
US population 330m => 7 million dead
World population 7.8b => 164 million dead
Nah !! Nothing to get hyped about.
Go back to flapping your wings about killing babies.
@eladar saidTough guy talk on the internet is for punks, which is what you have always come across as. Your willingness to sacrifice other people's lives isn't as manly as you think it is.
You can exchange freedom for safety, I am not surprised you would do so. You have always come across as a coward.
The measures being taken today in the US are little different from what was proposed a 100 years ago:
"The public health authorities in both the United States and Europe took up fundamental measures to control epidemics that dated back to Medieval times of the Bubonic Plague. They aimed to reduce the transmission of the pathogen by preventing contact. They framed their public health orders in scientific ideas of their understanding of how the influenza microbe spread through the air by coughing and sneezing, and their conception of the pathogenesis of influenza. Since they concluded that the pathogen was transmitted through the air, efforts to control contagion were organized to prevent those infected from sharing the same air as the uninfected. Public gatherings and the coming together of people in close quarters was seen as a potential agency for the transmission of the disease. The public health authorities believed that good ventilation and fresh air were "the best of all general measures for prevention, and this implies the avoidance of crowded meetings," (BMJ, 10/19/1918). This translated into the controversial and imperative measure of closing of many public institutions and banning of public gatherings during the time of an epidemic.
The rigidity of these regulations varied immensely with the power of the local health departments and severity of the influenza outbreak. In the United States, the Committee of the American Public Health Association ( APHA) issued measures in a report to limit large gatherings. The committee held that any type of gathering of people, with the mixing of bodies and sharing of breath in crowded rooms, was dangerous. Nonessential meetings were to be prohibited. They determined that saloons, dance halls, and cinemas should be closed and public funerals should be prohibited since they were unnecessary assemblies. Churches were allowed to remain open, but the committee believed that only the minimum services should be conducted and the intimacy reduced. Street cars were thought to be a special menace to society with poor ventilation, crowding and uncleanliness."
https://virus.stanford.edu/uda/fluresponse.html
And:
"The more restrictive methods of infection control issued by public health departments were quarantines and the isolation of the ill. These measures required a sacrifice of individual liberty for the societal good and therefore required a strong public health authority. Both the Illinois and New York State Health Departments ordered that patients must be quarantined until all clinical manifestations of the illness subsided. They held that the danger of the influenza epidemic was so grave that it was imperative to secure isolation for the patient (JAMA, 10/12/1918). The members of the APHA committee agreed in their report, saying that patients with influenza should to be kept in isolation. Because of the strain on facilities, only severe cases were to be hospitalized while mild influenza patients were to remain at home."
22 Mar 20
@no1marauder saidWhich is why the DOJ needs to be given the right to arrest people indefinitely without a trial.
Tough guy talk on the internet is for punks, which is what you have always come across as. Your willingness to sacrifice other people's lives isn't as manly as you think it is.
The measures being taken today in the US are little different from what was proposed a 100 years ago:
"The public health authorities in both the United States and Europe took up fundamental m ...[text shortened]... th poor ventilation, crowding and uncleanliness."
https://virus.stanford.edu/uda/fluresponse.html
22 Mar 20
@no1marauder saidThat is something the government is trying to get out of this crisis.
That's something Trump's boys want that the Democratic House will never pass.
22 Mar 20
@eladar saidThe Texas Republican Governor issued a proclamation shutting schools, bars, restaurants (except for take out and delivery), banning gatherings of more than 10 people, etc. https://gov.texas.gov/news/post/governor-abbott-issues-executive-orders-to-mitigate-spread-of-covid-19-in-texas
Liberals want big governments that dominate Society. Republicans in the Most East believe in big government as well. Any of your establishment types want a government dominated society.
Which is he: a "liberal" or a "Republican in the Most East"?