17 Jul 13
Originally posted by whodeyno such thing as a moderate
With yet another round of elections coming, I have to ask, what exactly is a moderate? The term moderate is thrown around to describe someone who is electable. All others need not apply.
So how does one achieve the label moderate? It seems to me that those who buck the status quo are the ones labeled moderate.
So for those who support the highest def ...[text shortened]... t at one or the other end of the political spectrum.
Oh, how I hate the state run media. ðŸ˜
there are political folks (primarily republicans, democrats, and libertarians)
and the apolitical folks who don't care, or vote for the sake of their citizenship
as for being labeled as a "radical" it is of no importance unless you believe that you are one
yea, stop watching the state run media: fox, cnn, msnbc (aka the obama network) are only trying to make a corrupt system look entertaining. it isn't. it's just deplorable. i have seen good reporters turn into shills the moment they sell out to a major corporate news organization. independent media that leaves sources and links are the way to go! they are not trying to make (as much of) a profit, and they actually believe in the words they are saying. no more stenographers, please.
19 Jul 13
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Originally posted by empovsunThe idea that it's good to be highly partisan flies in the face of human reality, where people's opinions are complex, nuanced, various and don't toe the party line. But really, this is a flaw of representative democracy: it's pretty sad to have to boil down the infinite variety of our opinions to fit the platforms of two, or three, or even a dozen parties.
so thats why i never noticed them 😛
really, i lump those people with the apolitical types
they might as well smash buttons at the voting booth
19 Jul 13
Originally posted by Teinosukei wasn't gearing towards partisan lines, but you are right
The idea that it's good to be highly partisan flies in the face of human reality, where people's opinions are complex, nuanced, various and don't toe the party line. But really, this is a flaw of representative democracy: it's pretty sad to have to boil down the infinite variety of our opinions to fit the platforms of two, or three, or even a dozen parties.
the best i can try to do is get people behind raising a 3rd real party in the us
baby steps 🙂
19 Jul 13
Originally posted by empovsunThe political system is almost a complete waste of time. This pipe dream of getting a third party going is guaranteed to accomplish nothing. If progressives want to see real, lasting progress, they should instead work on building up economic democracy through the establishment of worker owned cooperative businesses. If equal time, effort and money were put into that as is wasted on the political system then you'd see tangible progress in short order.
i wasn't gearing towards partisan lines, but you are right
the best i can try to do is get people behind raising a 3rd real party in the us
baby steps 🙂
19 Jul 13
Originally posted by empovsunMost people in the US who are aware, know that third parties if they have an effect, it is to guarantee the election of the party least like the third party. In short they are counterproductive.
i wasn't gearing towards partisan lines, but you are right
the best i can try to do is get people behind raising a 3rd real party in the us
baby steps 🙂
20 Jul 13
Originally posted by rwingettlol, what major corporation will start that up? or billionaire?
The political system is almost a complete waste of time. This pipe dream of getting a third party going is guaranteed to accomplish nothing. If progressives want to see real, lasting progress, they should instead work on building up economic democracy through the establishment of worker owned cooperative businesses. If equal time, effort and money were put into that as is wasted on the political system then you'd see tangible progress in short order.
"if equal time, effort and money were put into that as is wasted on the political system.."
if only. raising awareness about other options in the political system will eventually entice the media to talk about them more. if there was solid polling and a real grassroots push, it could also happen that way. just look at the what the koch brothers did when they created the tea party! the same can happen with the libertarian party, the constitution party, or the justice party (sorry green party, you get an A for being annoying).
20 Jul 13
Originally posted by normbenignit's more about voting for them in protest of the two party system
Most people in the US who are aware, know that third parties if they have an effect, it is to guarantee the election of the party least like the third party. In short they are counterproductive.
you should still choose the party you identify with the most
choosing one of the lesser of two evils gets old. fast.
20 Jul 13
Originally posted by rwingettJust as soon as they end world hunger and create peace on earth I suppose they will get right on that.
The political system is almost a complete waste of time. This pipe dream of getting a third party going is guaranteed to accomplish nothing. If progressives want to see real, lasting progress, they should instead work on building up economic democracy through the establishment of worker owned cooperative businesses. If equal time, effort and money were put into that as is wasted on the political system then you'd see tangible progress in short order.