26 Sep 10
Originally posted by no1marauderPoint taken. But I am really talking about Eladar's vision for America not a German soldier's response to things like the gas ovens of Belsen and Auschwitz. Eladar is responding to 'high taxes' and the existence of elements of a welfare state.
...a German soldier during the Nazi years who turned his weapon against his superior officers and public employees surely wouldn't deserve moral condemnation.
26 Sep 10
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Originally posted by FMFEladar doesn't really understand what it means to have your rights violated. His complaints are not things to revolt over. I know, I live in a city full of people rebelling for all kinds of reasons. They often plan to die before they live to 25...
Point taken. But I am really talking about Eladar's vision for America not a German soldier's response to things like the gas ovens of Belsen and Auschwitz. Eladar is responding to 'high taxes' and the existence of elements of a welfare state.
26 Sep 10
Originally posted by AThousandYoungI met someone the other day for whom it would make no sense to live past 40. In fact it seems his life makes no sense right now; unless something changes soon, I see a motorcycle accident in his future.
Eladar doesn't really understand what it means to have your rights violated. His complaints are not things to revolt over. I know, I live in a city full of people rebelling for all kinds of reasons. They often plan to die before they live to 25...
26 Sep 10
Originally posted by Bosse de NageInteresting. Why a motorcycle accident? He drive drunk without a helmet?
I met someone the other day for whom it would make no sense to live past 40. In fact it seems his life makes no sense right now; unless something changes soon, I see a motorcycle accident in his future.
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26 Sep 10
Originally posted by AThousandYoungI am not concerned about his understanding. He is declaring himself an enemy of my country. I see no difference at this point between him and Osama bin Laden. It is well known that a solider can refuse an unlawful order but nowhere have I heard that he has a lawful choice of treason and treason is exactly what this fool is advocating. Treason ends a Constitution. It does not support it. The US Constitution provides a method for the redress of grievance. It does not serve as a blueprint for those who wish to destroy it. A responsible citizen and a decent human being would apologize and disavow the incendiary and (hopefully) ignorant words that have passed this fool's lips. I await his response.
Eladar doesn't really understand what it means to have your rights violated. His complaints are not things to revolt over. I know, I live in a city full of people rebelling for all kinds of reasons. They often plan to die before they live to 25...
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26 Sep 10
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Originally posted by EladarThat is true (but it is also true about the Communist Soviet Union.) So I ask again, "Are you a traitor now?" Your incendiary statements lead me to believe that is also true. (And the fact that you clearly want to justify that crime.)
This country was founded by traitors.
26 Sep 10
Originally posted by TerrierJackNo, not a traitor now. I'll never be a traitor because I have never sworn allegiance to the US government, just the Constitution. All men and women who serve in the military swear to support the Constitution from threats foreign and domestic.
That is true (but it is also true about the Communist Soviet Union.) So I ask again, "Are you a traitor now?" Your incendiary statements lead me to believe that is also true. (And the fact that you clearly want to justify that crime.)
26 Sep 10
Originally posted by EladarHave you pledged alliegance to the republic for which the flag stands?
No, not a traitor now. I'll never be a traitor because I have never sworn allegiance to the US government, just the Constitution. All men and women who serve in the military swear to support the Constitution from threats foreign and domestic.