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What's Fair Retaliation for this US Crime?

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@earl-of-trumps said
This was not done on the battle field, or even in Iran. It was done in a sovereign nation, Iraq. Innocent civilians
were flat out MURDERED. There are many charges that could follow. An attack on a sovereign nation,
murdering innocent civilians, destruction of a civilian airport, etc. What would you have said
if the US caught Soleimani at Heathrow and blown up that airport killing innocent people?

Be honest.
YOU be honest. Which innocent civilians were killed? Why are you exaggerating? Do you know the definition of a civilian?

Here is Wiki on the Casualities.

As DNA results were still pending regarding the identification of those killed, a senior Pentagon official said there was "high probability" that Soleimani would be identified.[133] Soleimani's body was identified using a ring that he was known for wearing.[134][f] Ahmed Al Asadi, a spokesman for the Popular Mobilization Forces (PMF), confirmed the deaths of Soleimani and Muhandis.[125] According to Ayatollah Ali Sistani's office, the casualties included "several commanders who defeated Islamic State terrorists".[136]

The IRGC said a total of ten people were killed. Along with Soleimani, four other IRGC officers were also killed: Brigadier General Hossein Pourjafari, Colonel Shahroud Mozafarinia, Major Hadi Taremi and Captain Vahid Zamanian.[137] The remaining five casualties were Iraqi members of the PMF: deputy chairman Abu Mahdi al-Muhandis, chief of protocol and public relations Muhammed Reza al-Jaberi,[138] Mohammad al-Shibani, Hassan Abdul Hadi and Heydar Ali.[139]


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assassination_of_Qasem_Soleimani#Casualties

There were NO civilians killed
There was no damage to any airport

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@earl-of-trumps said
This was not done on the battle field, or even in Iran. It was done in a sovereign nation, Iraq. Innocent civilians
were flat out MURDERED. There are many charges that could follow. An attack on a sovereign nation,
murdering innocent civilians, destruction of a civilian airport, etc. What would you have said
if the US caught Soleimani at Heathrow and blown up that airport killing innocent people?

Be honest.
It was done in a nation that has US and other non Iraqi troops that have a right to be protected from militias organised and controlled by Iran.
You can shed a tear for him if you like, He’s no better or worse than any other commander in the region but the idea that they are off limits and only the peasants can be sacrificed is not one I’m ever going to agree with.
We need more generals and leaders getting killed on any side you care to mention, maybe / only then will this crap stop.
Soldiers don’t get MURDERED they just get killed by enemy fire.

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@rajk999 said
Which civilians were killed?
None of them were just civilians, of the ten killed, all were some kind of big wig military/political people involved in some kind of terrorism.

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@dood111 said
None of them were just civilians, of the ten killed, all were some kind of big wig military/political people involved in some kind of terrorism.
Thanks. I know. Earl of Trumps seems to think the US killed civilians and destroyed the airport.

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@kevcvs57 said
They attacked a military convoy and killed a general with gallons of US and Middle Eastern blood ( including civilians ) on his hands. What exactly do you think an international tribunal would charge them with?
He was a soldier and now he’s dead 🤷🏻
A "military convoy"? No, it was a visiting official from another nation on a diplomatic mission there with the express permission of the Iraqi government:

"Adil Abdul-Mahdi, Prime Minister of Iraq, said he was scheduled to meet Soleimani on the day the attack happened, with the purpose of Soleimani's trip being that Soleimani was delivering Iran's response to a previous message from Saudi Arabia which Iraq had relayed.[107] "

I imagine an international tribunal would charge them with a war crime.

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@dood111 said
None of them were just civilians, of the ten killed, all were some kind of big wig military/political people involved in some kind of terrorism.
The PMF is an arm of the Iraqi government which engaged in almost constant fighting against ISIL:

"The Popular Mobilization Forces (PMF) (Arabic: الحشد الشعبي‎ al-Ḥashd ash-Shaʿbī), also known as the People's Mobilization Committee (PMC) and the Popular Mobilization Units (PMU),[37] is an Iraqi state-sponsored umbrella organization composed of approx 40 forces that are mostly Shia Muslim groups, but also include Sunni Muslim, Christian, and Yazidi groups.[38][39] The popular mobilization units as a group was formed in 2014 and have fought in nearly every major battle against ISIL.[40] It has been called the new Iraqi Republican Guard after it was fully reorganized in early 2018 by its then-Commander in Chief Haider al-Abadi, Prime Minister of Iraq from 2014 to 2018, who issued "regulations to adapt the situation of the Popular Mobilization fighters"."

"However, by the end of 2016, a law was passed bringing the PMU under the auspices of the Supreme Commander of the Iraqi National Army, incorporating PMF units into the official army of Iraq and removing any official affiliation with any social, religious or political group.[51]"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Popular_Mobilization_Forces

Essentially the US killed members of Iraq's armed forces escorting a foreign dignitary on a government approved diplomatic mission.

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@no1marauder said
A "military convoy"? No, it was a visiting official from another nation on a diplomatic mission there with the express permission of the Iraqi government:

"Adil Abdul-Mahdi, Prime Minister of Iraq, said he was scheduled to meet Soleimani on the day the attack happened, with the purpose of Soleimani's trip being that Soleimani was delivering Iran's response to a previou ...[text shortened]... Iraq had relayed.[107] "

I imagine an international tribunal would charge them with a war crime.
I’d bet they don’t though, he was an active duty commander in an asymmetric war.zone and he got offed by his enemy, the great Satan. To take someone to The Hague because a soldier gets killed simply because that soldier was a general is a bit too elitist even for somewhere called The Hague.

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@kevcvs57 said
I’d bet they don’t though, he was an active duty commander in an asymmetric war.zone and he got offed by his enemy, the great Satan. To take someone to The Hague because a soldier gets killed simply because that soldier was a general is a bit too elitist even for somewhere called The Hague.
I'm sorry, but you seem to be ignoring the point that he was there by official invitation from the sovereign government of Iraq.

Is the US at war with Iraq? Then why are we killing members of their armed forces escorting a foreign official on an approved diplomatic mission?

The US attack was in violation of international law:

"A report by the UN's special rapporteur on extrajudicial killings, Agnes Callamard, says the US had not provided sufficient evidence of an imminent threat to life to justify the attack."

"Agnes Callamard presented her findings on Thursday to the UN Human Rights Council in Geneva.

Her report says the US had provided no evidence that showed Soleimani specifically was planning an imminent attack against US interests, particularly in Iraq, for which immediate action was necessary and would have been justified.

"Major General Soleimani was in charge of Iran military strategy, and actions, in Syria and Iraq. But absent an actual imminent threat to life, the course of action taken by the US was unlawful."

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-53345885

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@no1marauder said

"Major General Soleimani was in charge of Iran military strategy, and actions, in Syria and Iraq. But absent an actual imminent threat to life, the course of action taken by the US was unlawful."
Poor Soleimani .. he was such a nice guy

Soleimani was involved in the massacre of more than 500,000 innocent people; he was directly responsible for the displacement of more than 13 million people in addition to damaging the houses of more than 6.1 million citizens in this country. It is worth reminding that Nazi Germany has killed around 1,650 citizens and destroyed 7,000 houses during the bombing of Guernica, which is considered a war crime in World War II.

Qassem Soleimani and Quds Force aided Bashar al-Assad’s air force to conduct more than 6,000 bombing operations against ordinary people. At the time, they also operate more than 6,000 artillery operations against Syrian residential areas which resulted in destroying dozens of cities and towns in this country. Notably, Soleimani’s crimes include blowing up 492 hospitals and medical centers and murdering 847 doctors and medics who were trying to rescue the wounded and the people who had been buried under the ruins after Assad’s inhuman bombardments.


https://www.iranfocus.com/en/iran-and-its-neighbours/syria/34188-a-glance-at-qassem-soleimani-s-crimes-in-syria/

As usual you continue to support scumbags and the dregs and cockroaches of society

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@rajk999 said
Poor Soleimani .. he was such a nice guy

[i]Soleimani was involved in the massacre of more than 500,000 innocent people; he was directly responsible for the displacement of more than 13 million people in addition to damaging the houses of more than 6.1 million citizens in this country. It is worth reminding that Nazi Germany has killed around 1,650 citizens and dest ...[text shortened]... iranfocus.com/en/iran-and-its-neighbours/syria/34188-a-glance-at-qassem-soleimani-s-crimes-in-syria/
No one said he was.

But it's pretty farfetched to hold him responsible for everything the Syrian Air Force did during that ongoing civil war.

Could the US legally assassinate Putin for supporting Assad in that struggle?

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@no1marauder said
No one said he was.

But it's pretty farfetched to hold him responsible for everything the Syrian Air Force did during that ongoing civil war.

Could the US legally assassinate Putin for supporting Assad in that struggle?
you dont get the concept of " leader" do you? and yes, putin is worthy of assassination

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@no1marauder said
No one said he was.

But it's pretty farfetched to hold him responsible for everything the Syrian Air Force did during that ongoing civil war.

Could the US legally assassinate Putin for supporting Assad in that struggle?
There is no such thing as "legally assassinate". The UN and the EU and the USA all declared the man to be a terrorist. The first to get him off the planet and send him to meet God for judgment is a hero.

What was Assad struggling about... struggling to kill more people? Did Putin help him? Then YES !!

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What do you mean by a record as a terrorist state? Who says that? And i dont know about those other sujects you write about? Im not a history professor like you are. , so can’t contribute.
But i know that we had a RIGHT to kill the killer, Solamin. Duchess did we have a RIGHT to slay Bin Ladin? Duchess, can you tell us if there is a difference?? And for the record, we mowed down a few friends and family members at that moment with Bin Ladin. Was that OK, like the collateral damage with Soleimani?
Can you answer the simple question for one time? And in regular grammatical English and without links all over creation.

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@rajk999 said
There is no such thing as "legally assassinate". The UN and the EU and the USA all declared the man to be a terrorist. The first to get him off the planet and send him to meet God for judgment is a hero.

What was Assad struggling about... struggling to kill more people? Did Putin help him? Then YES !!
No the UN and the EU did not designate Soleimani a "terrorist" nor did they ever suggest he could be killed on sight; they did impose some sanctions on him. https://web.archive.org/web/20200104171212/https://www.aa.com.tr/en/middle-east/profile-who-is-qasem-soleimani-/1690827

I do not accept that the US can simply declare someone a "terrorist" and kill them even if they are not an imminent threat to the US. Neither does international law.

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