Originally posted by windmillWhat will shooting him accomplish? Execution is a leftover from humanity's barbaric past. If we have any hope of leaving barbarism behind we need to eliminate its practises(sp?).
Shoot him...why do people not have the intelect to understand this is the right thing to do?
Better to put him on proper trial by the Iraqis and have certainty over his guilt rather than just shoot him and never be certain.
Theoretically, one is innocent until proven guilty (although people often form their own opinions based on media coverage etc. see Michael Jackson trials).
Originally posted by lukemcmullanhe is GUILTY...we all know this.
What will shooting him accomplish? Execution is a leftover from humanity's barbaric past. If we have any hope of leaving barbarism behind we need to eliminate its practises(sp?).
Better to put him on proper trial by the Iraqis and have certainty over his guilt rather than just shoot him and never be certain.
Theoretically, one is innocent until ...[text shortened]... people often form their own opinions based on media coverage etc. see Michael Jackson trials).
shooting him and sending his body home to his family will show other's who go around murdering innocent people that what they have done/doing is wrong.
sure most would think that more can be achieved with the situation...but i disagree.i think what i have been saying would be best for all concerned.
Originally posted by windmillYea, but where do you draw the line with "pre-determined guilt".
he is GUILTY...we all know this.
shooting him and sending his body home to his family will show other's who go around murdering innocent people that what they have done/doing is wrong.
sure most would think that more can be achieved wi ...[text shortened]... the situation...but i disagree.i think what i have been saying would be best for all concerned.
Doing this with even one case removes all credibility from the legal system.
Originally posted by lukemcmullanlike i said he is guilty...we all know.
Yea, but where do you draw the line with "pre-determined guilt".
Doing this with even one case removes all credibility from the legal system.
more to the point is why people have a need to push guilty sentences on those they don't really KNOW are guilty more than a person who is...i.e..Michael Jackson.mabey this is their own problem they need to deal with?
Originally posted by windmillDo you dispute my second point?
like i said he is guilty...we all know.
more to the point is why people have a need to push guilty sentences on those they don't really KNOW are guilty more than a person who is...i.e..Michael Jackson.mabey this is their own problem they need to deal with?
Originally posted by windmillGeorge used Saddam's actions as a cover to further his own personal financial interests in oil and military equipment with the consequential deaths of over 20,000 people despite advanced protests across the world.
motives...
compare the reasons why the people died because of Saddam and George.i don't believe George ever wanted any innocent people to die...allthough it was inevitable.i don't know but it also annoys me that so many people have.
Most bank robbers don't want people to die either.
Saddam and Bush deserve similar fates.
Originally posted by STANGi don't believe George's own person interest's are in oil...however i don't know.mabey he is ignorant towards the wrong help that powerful people in the oil industries would freely give him...i don't really know.
George used Saddam's actions as a cover to further his own personal financial interests in oil and military equipment with the consequential deaths of over 20,000 people despite advanced protests across the world.
Most bank robbers don't want people to die either.
Saddam and Bush deserve similar fates.
Originally posted by windmillYou're prepared to breed more terrorism by killing Saddam but how much effort have you gone to know more about Bush's corruption leading to the deaths of 20,000 Iraqis, Americans, Australians, etc ?
i don't believe George's own person interest's are in oil...however i don't know.mabey he is ignorant towards the wrong help that powerful people in the oil industries would freely give him...i don't really know.
And would you then be prepared to take appropriate action ?
By the way, violence leads to violence.