04 Sep 05
Originally posted by rwingettRob, tell the truth. If I were to offer that as an explanation as to why the "right" was not cynical, would you accept that?
The American Left is not cynical. They are not contemptuously distrustful of human nature and motives. They are contemptuously distrustful of Republican nature and motives. It's a big difference. A cynic would think that no matter who was in power, they'd do a poor job. The American Left only thinks that of conservative Republicans. They think that if they themselves were in power that everything would be much better.
04 Sep 05
Originally posted by kirksey957That's being partisan, not cynical. Because I have an overwhelming hatred for Bush that cannot be abated by any means, does not make me cynical. Cynicism would be if I said that it didn't matter if it were the Democrats or the Republicans in power because they'd both screw things up. Or that no matter who was in power they'd screw things up. That would be cynicism. But I'm not like that. I think the Democrats are OK and that the Republicans are the very essence of evil. I think that there are people who can do a good job and who do make positive contributions to society. I just don't think that any of them are from the GOP.
Perhaps if I offered a few examples it might help facilitate this discussion. I will try to offer an example of a liberal and what I think is cynicism.
Jesse Jackson likening Bush's evacuation of New Orleans to slave trade.
Cindy Sheehan saying that Bush is the world's worst terrorist.
And earlier today (I guess it has been moderated) The Slow ...[text shortened]... for me cynicism is focusing on negativity or expecting that one will always be a disappointment.
04 Sep 05
Originally posted by kirksey957You don't need to go to the trouble. I have never accused the right of being cynical. They have just about every other flaw under the sun, but cynicism is not one of them.
Rob, tell the truth. If I were to offer that as an explanation as to why the "right" was not cynical, would you accept that?
04 Sep 05
Originally posted by rwingettOiy vey, you're tough! Would you concede some "selective cynicism"?
That's being partisan, not cynical. Because I have an overwhelming hatred for Bush that cannot be abated by any means, does not make me cynical. Cynicism would be if I said that it didn't matter if it were the Democrats or the Republicans in power because they'd both screw things up. Or that no matter who was in power they'd screw things up. [i]That[/i ...[text shortened]... o make positive contributions to society. I just don't think that any of them are from the GOP.
04 Sep 05
Originally posted by rwingettThey are control freaks especially in the realm of economics (that's what leftyism) is. They seek to control and regulate because they are distrustful of human nature and motives.
The American Left is not cynical. They are not contemptuously distrustful of human nature and motives. They are contemptuously distrustful of Republican nature and motives. It's a big difference. A cynic would think that no matter who was in power, they'd do a poor job. The American Left only thinks that of conservative Republicans. They think that if they themselves were in power that everything would be much better.
04 Sep 05
Originally posted by rwingettSo I am a much better example of a cynic than the left then.
The American Left is not cynical. They are not contemptuously distrustful of human nature and motives. They are contemptuously distrustful of Republican nature and motives. It's a big difference. A cynic would think that no matter who was in power, they'd do a poor job. The American Left only thinks that of conservative Republicans. They think that if they themselves were in power that everything would be much better.
04 Sep 05
Originally posted by WajomaControl freaks; like wanting to force a women to carry a pregnancy to term even though she doesn't wish to? Like wanting to have criminal laws banning individuals from having homosexual consensual sex? Like wanting to ban pornography?
They are control freaks especially in the realm of economics (that's what leftyism) is. They seek to control and regulate because they are distrustful of human nature and motives.
Yep, those lefties are sureeeeeee control freaks!
04 Sep 05
Originally posted by no1marauderJust because I oppose the economic controls the lefties drool over that makes me right wing?
Control freaks; like wanting to force a women to carry a pregnancy to term even though she doesn't wish to? Like wanting to have criminal laws banning individuals from having homosexual consensual sex? Like wanting to ban pornography?
Yep, those lefties are sureeeeeee control freaks!
I am niether left nor right and am cynical of all that seek to impose their values on others.
You must be really quite fit...jumping to conclusions that way.
04 Sep 05
Originally posted by WajomaMaybe they'll learn to control the weather?
They are control freaks especially in the realm of economics (that's what leftyism) is. They seek to control and regulate because they are distrustful of human nature and motives.
Maybe they can teach Coroprate America something about controlling their greed.
Maybe Jesus will teach them a lesson in control.
With whips & high heels of course ~ what a drag!
04 Sep 05
Originally posted by WajomaSpeaking of jumping to conclusions, where EXACTLY did I say you were right wing??
Just because I oppose the economic controls the lefties drool over that makes me right wing?
I am niether left nor right and am cynical of all that seek to impose their values on others.
You must be really quite fit...jumping to conclusions that way.