Originally posted by PalynkaFor many years, the Republican party had a platform plank that the government on Taiwan was the legitimate government of mainland China and supporting the overthrow of the communist government. The platforms of both parties always called for the re-unification of Germany and Korea under so-called "democratic" governments and the US never formally recognized East Germany as a legitimate country. It doesn't recognize North Korea to this day.
I also don't think it's good to have an elected political party with the objective of destroying a country in their charter.
I actually think that not removing it makes it legitimate for Israel to consider it as an enemy and a threat to their existence.
It is also legitimate for Palestinians to consider many of Israel's acts as acts of war, but I don't ...[text shortened]... is no intention for peace, only for post-ponement of the war to a more appropriate moment.
Given that it is the opinion of the vast majority of Palestinians that a Jewish-run state should not have been created in the majority of Palestine in 1948, I fail to see how calling for the liquidation of that STATE is any different from the cases cited. The Hamas position might be unrealistic and anachronistic, but it is hardly a reason to withhold recognization of a government freely elected by the people.
Originally posted by shavixmirI disagree, that statement could basically be used similarly
This is classic too:
"Mr Bush portrayed the strong Hamas showing as more a reflection of discontent among Palestinians about the way they were being governed, rather than anger at the situation with Israel."
The man is away with the fairies. I swear to God there's something wrong with him, his advisors and his PR consultancy office!
to describe any government "turned out" by its people.
I can't believe Hamas was elected because of "anger at the situation with Israel". I have to hope the Palestinian people are smarter than that.
Originally posted by xsYes, if the Palestine people were "smart" like you want they'd accept their occupation and repression like good sheep.
I disagree, that statement could basically be used similarly
to describe any government "turned out" by its people.
I can't believe Hamas was elected because of "anger at the situation with Israel". I have to hope the Palestinian people are smarter than that.
Originally posted by shavixmirMy, My!
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/4650196.stm
Lots of people have lots of opinions on Hamas winning the Palestinian elections. But take a look at these quotes:
[b]Acting Israeli Prime-minister:
"The state of Israel will not negotiate with a Palestinian administration if even part of it is an armed terrorist organization calling for the de ...[text shortened]... hould, because your children will suffer the consequences of your actions.[/b]
Angry commie on a rant today?
Which part of "You Lost" and will "Always Lose" don't you understand?
Your frustration is a glorious thing. Simply wonderful.
Originally posted by no1marauderMr, no1marauderogatory,
The Hamas position might be unrealistic and anachronistic, but it is hardly a reason to withhold recognization of a government freely elected by the people.
My point exactly, if the position is the one of the freely elected government then Israel has full legitimacy to view it as an enemy of its state.
Originally posted by PalynkaIsrael has proven itself an enemy of the Palestinian people for over half a century by brutally repressing them, occupying their land and killing them when the Zionists have deemed it necessary. Israel can either make a fair peace which involves granting the Palestinian people what they deserve: a truly, independent sovereign nation led by whomever the Palestinian people desire. Or Israel can continue on its present course, in which case they should cease whining about the methods used by the people fighting against their illegal, brutal and unjust occupation.
Mr, no1marauderogatory,
My point exactly, if the position is the one of the freely elected government then Israel has full legitimacy to view it as an enemy of its state.