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[b]1.Do you believe that humans are depraved beyond all measure without Christ?[b]
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Yes, John 10:10 - The thief cometh not, but for to steal, and to kill, and to destroy: I am come that they might have life, and that they might have it more abundantly.
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[b]2.Do you believe that God's grace is unconditional, and fully sufficient for salvation of those elected by him for the blessings of eternal life?[b]
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Yes, Hebrews 13:8 - Jesus Christ the same yesterday, and to day, and for ever.
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[b]3.Do you believe Jesus' death atones for the sins of only those who will receive him into their hearts?[b]
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No, because he died for all sins, past, present and future sins. The Question is will everyone accept that?
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[b]4.Do you believe that God's grace is irresitable (did you mean irreversible?); that if he has called you to election, you can run, as Jonah did, but you cannot hide?[b]
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Yes, when you are a believer you are saved when you sin as a believer you become out of fellowship with God, not getting the earthly blessings you should be. When you have a relationship with God, God helps you make you life in the way that it was made for.
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[b]5.Do you believe that those who are truly saved are saved once and for all time? If they subsequently renounce their faith, it merely proves their faith was never genuine in the first place?[b]
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Yes, and the other day I was flipping though the T.V. Channels and came across the Catholic one and they were having to guys say the Creed and it was so monotone, not from the heart and then when it was done the rest of the people said Amen.
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[b]6.Do you believe in free will?[b]
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Yes I believe in free will, God gave Adam free will to accept His truth or reject Him by eating an apple. There for we have the same free will to accept His word or reject it.
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[b]It will lead to more fruitful discussion than endless quarrels with those who contest your every word.[b]

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Do you believe in the creation story literally (Earth made in 7 days 7000 years ago)?

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Originally posted by RBHILL
1.Do you believe that humans are depraved beyond all measure without Christ?
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Yes, John 10:10 - The thief cometh not, but for to steal, and to kill, and to destroy: I am come that they might have life, and that they might have it more abundantly.


How can we be made in the image of God and be inherently depraved
beyond all measure?

Yes, and the other day I was flipping though the T.V. Channels and came across the Catholic one and they were having to guys say the Creed and it was so monotone, not from the heart and then when it was done the rest of the people said Amen.

How dare you judge the faith of people because they sound 'monotone!'
How dare you presume to know what is in their heart?

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Originally posted by XanthosNZ
Do you believe in the creation story literally (Earth made in 7 days 7000 years ago)?
Yes I do. as a ruff Estimate I do give or take 1,000 years.
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Q: How can the Bible be correct about the world being created in six days?

A: Many Christians become troubled when they read the creation account in the Bible and then listen to the ideas of evolutionists. The Bible, of course, asserts that God created the universe and everything in it. Evolutionists, on the other hand, usually leave God completely out and assume that everything "just happened." In addition, evolutionists describe life developing over vast periods of time as a scientific fact, though it is really only a theory.

Some scientists who believe the Bible account of God's creation think that it can fit with some aspects of evolutionary theory. They use terms like "progressive" or "continuous" creation. For example, some suggest that the days of creation in chapter one of Genesis might be "age days," that is, long periods of time in which God created and then helped things develop. For in-depth information about this and similar viewpoints, contact the American Scientific Affiliation, P. O. Box 668, Ipswich, Massachusetts 01938, telephone (978) 356-5656. Others believe that the six days of Genesis are literal 24-hour days in which God created everything. They do not think that the actual facts of science support long periods of development. For more information on this viewpoint, contact the Institute for Creation Research, P.O. Box 2667, El Cajon, California 92021-0667, telephone (800) 628-7640 or (619) 448-0900, ext. 6091; fax: (619) 448-3469.

It is important to note that there can be no real conflict between the facts of the Bible and the facts of science, since God was the Author of both. The problems arise when we begin to interpret those facts. Since Christians hold various views, it is important to keep an attitude of humility and charity toward others in these complicated areas. One fact is absolutely clear from the Bible—God is the Creator!

http://billygraham.org/LFA_Article.asp?ArticleID=112

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How dare you judge the faith of people because they sound 'monotone!'
How dare you presume to know what is in their heart?


Nemesio[/b]
Hey you know I was once Catholic myself and I though that I had it all together sinning all the time looking at porn and still said to myself that I was going to Heaven because I was a good person. But the thing is only Jesus can save you, tou cant doing thing to save yourself.

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How can we be made in the image of God and be inherently depraved
beyond all measure?

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That is because we sin, and sin seperates us from God.

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Originally posted by RBHILL
Hey you know I was once Catholic myself and I though that I had it all together sinning all the time looking at porn and still said to myself that I was going to Heaven because I was a good person. But the thing is only Jesus can save you, tou cant doing thing to save yourself.
Just because you weren't a devout Catholic doesn't mean you
should assume that all Catholics are, especially because you
judge their praying as 'monotone.' Catholicism didn't speak
to you, and that's fine, but keep your judgments on other people
out of the conversation.

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Personally I don't believe in God however I have no problem with people who do. The only bit I cannot understand is the Earth being 7000 years old.
Look at the evidence for each side.
On the young Earth side you have Genesis, part of a book which has many parables and uses them as a way of describing the undescribable.
On the old Earth side you have the overwhelmingly large amount of astronomical and geological data demonstrating that the Earth is about 3.45 billion years old in a universe around 15 billion years old.
Now of course you'll say that I have forgotten the scientific evidence for the young Earth side. The problem is this evidence isn't really evidence it's just attempts to discredit the old Earth arguments. Yes carbon dating has it's inaccuracies. Yes no one is really sure how abigenesis works. There are problems in scientific theories all the time. However until someone comes up with a theory that more closely agrees with all the data popular wisdom will be that the Earth is 3.45 billion years old.

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Originally posted by RBHILL
That is because we sin, and sin seperates us from God.
Yes, so we are 'sinful' and, in this way, we are imperfect
images of God. However, that does not make us depraved.
Both Christians and non-Christians sin, but that doesn't make
them morally corrupt. There are many atheists who lead very
good lives.

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Originally posted by nemesio
Yes, so we are 'sinful' and, in this way, we are imperfect
images of God. However, that does not make us depraved.
Both Christians and non-Christians sin, but that doesn't make
them morally corrupt. There are many atheists who lead very
good lives.

Nemesio
Yes an Atheist does lead a good life in a sence of looking at it in a Human Standards way, but they are lost without Christ.

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Originally posted by RBHILL

they were having to guys say the Creed and it was so monotone, not from the heart
Do you suppose Stephen Hawking could be saved? If he spoke the creed, would you think he was insincere due to his monotonicity?

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Originally posted by DoctorScribbles
Do you suppose Stephen Hawking could be saved? If he spoke the creed, would you think he was insincere due to his monotonicity?
I don't know who that is, but way not just say the Sinners Pary and only ask Jesus into your heart only one time, in a normal voice.

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What about Ned from South Park?

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Originally posted by DoctorScribbles
What about Ned from South Park?
Dont watch South Park Sorry, but truthfully I saw one episode on Dec. 30 at a friends house in San Jose. It was when they burned there teacher and she looked like Darth Vader.

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Originally posted by RBHILL
Yes, and the other day I was flipping though the T.V. Channels and came across the Catholic one and they were having to guys say the Creed and it was so monotone, not from the heart and then when it was done the rest of the people said Amen.
Personally, I find the prayer techniques of charasmatic preachers such as Jimmy Swaggart, Jerry Falwell, Benny Hinn and a slew of others to be completely insincere and exuberant for the sake of showmanship.

Being a monotone speaker does not make you any less a Christian than a devout Catholic, RBHILL. In fact, I would go so far as to say that your comments are irrational and prejudiced, making you quite the hypocrite.

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