21 May 05
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If any of you wonder that big dog and the rest of the animal cultists have grown silent... don't worry. They are just awaiting instuctions. That is how a cult exists. It is why pradtf could not answer in any fashion except "In friendship,"
Mind wiped. So cut old dog a slack. He ain't too bright. He has to get instructions. Ol' svw served up a curve. It ain't up to the challenge.
21 May 05
I honest to god did not know what a "yob" was. But I now know that is is anti-civilization. It is the greens.
It is the effort to revenge the very act of making a ham.
Really. It is revenge for our being a superior species.
I have but a single question. "Who takes the part of the pork side when confronted with hunger?"
Who indeed?
I know. Dare you think about it?
24 May 05
Originally posted by ianpickeringBeing someone who is just leaving the ages of those who make up the majority of the 'yob culture' (18 years old), I have a few suggestions:
Tony Blair seems to have just woken up to the fact that there is a "Yob Culture" in Britain. Better late than never! Has anyone got any ideas what to do with these teenage louts who seem to care little about anything, other than making life a misery for others. And how can we stop things getting worse?
- A complete overhaul of our justice system, including far more severe prison sentences for most crimes, it is blatently obvious that the current deterrents are not working.
- Stop making stupid knee-jerk reactions based on stereotypes; I have recently heard that a shopping centre has banned people who are wearing 'hoodies' from entering. I frequently waer hoodies, and people should see that it is not the clothing that affects the peoples behaviour, it is the people inside the clothes.
- Get parents to realise it is sometimes their fault, they cannot just simply blame the schools and government for their own failure to teach dicipline to their children. The shear bloody-mindedness of some parents that their children who have been hit with ASBO's, insisting that their children are just misunderstood is appauling.
That's my view anyway...
24 May 05
Originally posted by StarValleyWyAs much as I shock myself for agreeing with you, pistol whipping and/or a face full of mace and a kick to the balls is a great deterent for punk as kids.
Thank you.
Knowing nothing about it, I will just read this thread. I am not qualified to answer. In Utah, nobody would really care if we pistol whip the buggers. But that is what we get for being rednecks?
Children should be taught that there are consequences for their actions. Parents should be held accountable for the actions of their hoodlum children as well. Lets put it this way, as a kid, I'd rather face the worst beating from a cop than my parents. I'm not saying that your kids should fear you, but, damn be very clear with them as to where they stand.
24 May 05
Originally posted by Hand of HecateAs a parent I agree %100 on being accountable for your children. I see to many parents coddeling these children and refusing to disipline bad behavior. My kids actions are a reflection of myself, I take it very personally. If one of my children step out of line they need to know there is a severe consequence. I find once equipped with this knowledge it is very rare to actually have to disipline my children. The level of disrespect in society is a direct result of no respect at home. Laws coming into action preventing parents from diciplining their children has created a generation of "what are you going to do about it" attitudes. We reap what we sow.
As much as I shock myself for agreeing with you, pistol whipping and/or a face full of mace and a kick to the balls is a great deterent for punk as kids.
Children should be taught that there are consequences for their actions. Parents should be held accountable for the actions of their hoodlum children as well. Lets put it this way, as a kid, I' ...[text shortened]... ying that your kids should fear you, but, damn be very clear with them as to where they stand.
24 May 05
Originally posted by mokkoI totally agree. I screwed up very badly and hurt another kid. It could have been much worse. My dad brought home a brochure for a boarding school in, literally the middle of nowhere Saskatchewan and explained to me that I'd be packing my bags if I made a similar stupid move. The pictures of what looked like snow covered tundra and the program of 'military modeled discipline' was quite convincing. As it happens he never had to lay a hand on me to be very clear that zero F'ing around would be tolerated. At the same time good behaviour was rewarded and home life was loving and supportive.
As a parent I agree %100 on being accountable for your children. I see to many parents coddeling these children and refusing to disipline bad behavior. My kids actions are a reflection of myself, I take it very personally. If one of my children step out of line they need to know there is a severe consequence. I find once equipped with this knowledge it is very ...[text shortened]... as created a generation of "what are you going to do about it" attitudes. We reap what we sow.
We're fundamentaly pack animals and packs need leaders to operate effectively. Make sure your kids understand the pecking order and life will be a lot more fun.
24 May 05
Originally posted by Hand of HecateYou wouldn't have gotten the warning in my home. You would be sask. bound b4 you could blink. But as long as you realize the seriousness of your actions and the consequences the entail. You should have realized this before your actions were taken, not after.
I totally agree. I screwed up very badly and hurt another kid. It could have been much worse. My dad brought home a brochure for a boarding school in, literally the middle of nowhere Saskatchewan and explained to me that I'd be packing my bags if I made a similar stupid move. The pictures of what looked like snow covered tundra and the program of ...[text shortened]... effectively. Make sure your kids understand the pecking order and life will be a lot more fun.
25 May 05
Originally posted by mokkoI'm surprised I wasn't packing my bags, but, I can honestly say that at that age I didn't fully inderstand how fragile people are. It was a lasting life lesson. Mistakes are made afterall, but, prolonged hoodlum behaviour must be dealt with.
You wouldn't have gotten the warning in my home. You would be sask. bound b4 you could blink. But as long as you realize the seriousness of your actions and the consequences the entail. You should have realized this before your actions were taken, not after.
25 May 05
Originally posted by Hand of HecateI'm just glad to hear the value of life has been realized. Unfortunately some for people this lesson is never learned or learned too late. Disipline is not a bad thing.
I'm surprised I wasn't packing my bags, but, I can honestly say that at that age I didn't fully inderstand how fragile people are. It was a lasting life lesson. Mistakes are made afterall, but, prolonged hoodlum behaviour must be dealt with.
I am speaking from the point of view of a person who was never disiplined as a child. I was a complete wreck to society, my family and myself. Thankfully I suffered some pretty harsh conseqences of real life. Knowing the lack of respect I had due to lack of authority gives me the strength to parent with a firm hand. I see the results in the attitudes of my own children.
It begins from the day we are born and it's never to late to be a positive influence on someone who has not had the guidence nessesary to be a productive member of society.
25 May 05
My uncle in Georgia had his house vandalized a a group of punk kids from one of the bigger cities near where he lives and he caught them in the act and took his rifle he had (he had been hunting) and promptl shot out all their tires and then called the cops the kids were all arrested and had to buy new tires. Moral of the story they never messed with his property again.