Originally posted by divegeesterI cannot make any comment on the bullies I encountered when I was at school without making questionable references to the Italian ethnicity of the pupils involved, and I would most certainly not venture anywhere near raising - or even alluding to - such a topic and such an ethnic angle, not even now, all these years later.
I propose that for the last ten to twelve years or so the internet has been a place for those bullied at school or the workplace to hide out and kick back at the system, the individuals, the culture, that has kicked them.
Discuss.
edit: several derogatory words for people of Italian heritage removed.
30 Oct 16
Originally posted by divegeesterAre you saying, to be specific, that you've identified individuals posting in this website as having been victims of bullying in their developmental years, and are now reacting against others posting here that they perceive to be acting like those that bullied them in their youth, but are now "hiding" behind a mask of aninimity like little cowards?
I propose that for the last ten to twelve years or so the internet has been a place for those bullied at school or the workplace to hide out and kick back at the system, the individuals, the culture, that has kicked them.
Discuss.
I think you'd have a really hard time quantifying that.
Personally, I think that the few dozen or so individuals posting here are really extraordinarily gifted and intelligent people just too stupid to have a civil, open minded and objective discussion. 😛
And that's a load of bs too. 😉
30 Oct 16
Originally posted by FMFBe careful. The Cosa Nostra is watching you! 😉
I cannot make any comment on the bullies I encountered when I was at school without making questionable references to the Italian ethnicity of the pupils involved, and I would most certainly not venture anywhere near raising - or even alluding to - such a topic and such an ethnic angle, not even now, all these years later.
edit: several derogatory words for people of Italian heritage removed.
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30 Oct 16
Originally posted by divegeesterI remember flaming and trolling etc from before 2002 so yeah. Usenet.
I propose that for the last ten to twelve years or so the internet has been a place for those bullied at school or the workplace to hide out and kick back at the system, the individuals, the culture, that has kicked them.
Discuss.
30 Oct 16
Originally posted by FMFYou're an analyst too?
I have little doubt that mental illness is the main reason she's now dead and that the circumstances are simply the circumstances ~ a context, a frame of reference, and a predicament that in most cases does not lead to a loss of life. How many women around the world committed suicide on the same day as she did without any circumstances surrounding their death th ...[text shortened]... will. We should not underestimate the key role that mental health plays in almost all suicides.
Don't you know that stress can lead to emotional and mental disorders resulting in depression?
You should look into the statistics related to what happens to women in the sex-trade and pornography industry. It ain't pretty.
31 Oct 16
Originally posted by divegeesterWhen I look at the way the children of immigrants are made to feel somehow unwelcome in the country of their birth, I'm surprised that more of them don't "hide out and kick back at the culture that has kicked them".
I propose that for the last ten to twelve years or so the internet has been a place for those bullied at school or the workplace to hide out and kick back at the system, the individuals, the culture, that has kicked them.
Discuss.
With regard to bullied people generally, I'm not sure that the bullying I see on the internet is being done by these people, more the other, they become victims on the internet as well. I see internet bullies as either people who think they're better than other people think they are, or people who think anyone other than themselves must be somehow inferior. Excessively self-imaged rather than poorly self-imaged.
Originally posted by FMFAnd I have little doubt that you have NOT researched the circumstances and are once again pleading from a position of ignorance. How many of these women that you claim suffer the same have their words turned into a meme, quoted in the national press? Practically nil I would reckon. How many incur large legal fees in an attempt to be forgotten? How many are forced to change their names and move city in an attempt to escape attention?
I have little doubt that mental illness is the main reason she's now dead and that the circumstances are simply the circumstances ~ a context, a frame of reference, and a predicament that in most cases does not lead to a loss of life. How many women around the world committed suicide on the same day as she did without any circumstances surrounding their death th ...[text shortened]... will. We should not underestimate the key role that mental health plays in almost all suicides.
I reject your assumptions, your dismissive stance and assertions of mental illness. All one has to do is ask you for evidence and once again your text resembles some ragged vestige fluttering on a barb wired fence.
Originally posted by divegeesterThen perhaps you should gravitate away from whatever sites you visit. The Guardian and other 'quality', media sources has numerous articles dealing with the subject.
I find that when I'm surfing the net I never happen to come across stories about revenge porn suicides.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/sep/16/italy-grapples-with-suicide-of-woman-taunted-over-online-sex-video
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/oct/13/tiziana-cantone-trail-justice-woman-killed-herself-sex-tape-italy
https://www.theguardian.com/law/2016/jul/25/victims-of-revenge-porn-turn-to-students-for-legal-advice
Now the question that surfaces is why the websites that you visit have failed to report these rather disturbing incidents. You do read news sources, right?
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Originally posted by robbie carrobieI'm not at all interested in your links about pornography robbie; this thread is about the premise that for the last ten to twelve years or so the internet has been a place for those bullied at school or the workplace to hide out and kick back at the system, the individuals, the culture, that has kicked them.
Then perhaps you should gravitate away from whatever sites you visit. The Guardian and other 'quality', media sources has numerous articles dealing with the subject.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/sep/16/italy-grapples-with-suicide-of-woman-taunted-over-online-sex-video
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/oct/13/tiziana-cantone-trai ...[text shortened]... visit have failed to report these rather disturbing incidents. You do read news sources, right?
Originally posted by divegeesterThese links are not about pornography per se, they are about people using pornography as a tool of revenge and the adverse effect that this has on the victims. Once again the question remains unanswered, how you could fail to recognise the problem. You claim that you surf the internet, then we are under duress to ascertain, why you remain ignorant of this trend? What news sources do you read? Do you read anything or are you content simply to watch videos and look at pictures? how are we to explain your ignorance divegeester?
I'm not at all interested in your links about pornography robbie; this thread is about the premise that for the last ten to twelve years or so the internet has been a place for those bullied at school or the workplace to hide out and kick back at the system, the individuals, the culture, that has kicked them.
Clearly this example demonstrates that the internet far from providing a haven for those who have been bullied is a catalyst itself for bullying as the references that I provided and which you refused to acknowledge clearly demonstrate.
