@very-rusty saidThe fact that some cannot should not stop those who could.
You are so correct about that!
Much easier said than done, I do talk from experience.
-VR
@rajk999 saidYou obviously have never had an issue or else you would know you have to admit you actually have a problem. Many Professionals hold down jobs, and it takes them longer to realize they have a drinking issue. Everyone around them know, but until they admit to themselves they have an issue, in their mind they don't have one. You can not help someone who doesn't think they have a problem. They also have to want to stop.
The fact that some cannot should not stop those who could.
-VR
@very-rusty saidOh .. so I was wrong then. I should have said .. ... because there are some who cannot apply the principle of moderation, all people should stop drinking ...
You obviously have never had an issue or you else you would know you have to admit you actually have a problem. Many Professionals hold down jobs, and it takes them longer to realize they have a drinking issue. Everyone around them know, but until they admit to themselves they have an issue, in their mind they don't have one. You can not help someone who doesn't think they have a problem. They also have to want to stop.
-VR
Is that correct now ?
@rajk999 saidNot at all, but anyone who does drink can develop a drinking problem, doesn't mean everyone will. I know many people who can have two sociable drinks and stop. I also know others who cannot.
Oh .. so I was wrong then. I should have said .. ... because there are some who cannot apply the principle of moderation, all people should stop drinking ...
Is that correct now ?
If done in moderation it does no harm to anyone, I believe you missed the point I was making entirely.
-VR
@very-rusty saidLol .. I think you need a drink. 😀
Not at all, but anyone who does drink can develop a drinking problem, doesn't mean everyone will. I know many people who can have two sociable drinks and stop. I also know others who cannot.
If done in moderation it does no harm to anyone, I believe you missed the point I was making entirely.
-VR
@rajk999 saidI know you are making a joke, but to me it not a funny one.
Lol .. I think you need a drink. 😀
I knew I had drinking issues in 1985 yet wasn't able to quit until 1992 March 22.
Not as easy as just stopping remember it is an addiction like smoking, which I quit in 2004.
The drinking was my bigger accomplishment in my mind, smoking coming in a close second.
-VR
@very-rusty saidHey i think the world revolves around the sun... not you. You cant drink, then dont. People really dont care. Im pretty sure though that I wont want a guy like you hanging around when im having a few drinks.
I know you are making a joke, but to me it not a funny one.
I knew I had drinking issues in 1985 yet wasn't able to quit until 1992 March 22.
Not as easy as just stopping remember it is an addiction like smoking, which I quit in 2004.
The drinking was my bigger accomplishment in my mind, smoking coming in a close second.
-VR
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@great-big-stees saidagreed but some things less moderate than others.
My view is and has been for a long time...moderation in all things.
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@very-rusty saidI dont have a drink problem its a problem with my leggs they just will not walk past pubs.
Not at all, but anyone who does drink can develop a drinking problem, doesn't mean everyone will. I know many people who can have two sociable drinks and stop. I also know others who cannot.
If done in moderation it does no harm to anyone, I believe you missed the point I was making entirely.
-VR
@rajk999 saidYou are correct the world does revolve around the sun not me or YOU.
Hey i think the world revolves around the sun... not you. You cant drink, then dont. People really dont care. Im pretty sure though that I wont want a guy like you hanging around when im having a few drinks.
Some care some don't care. I have experience, you don't, I've been through it, you haven't. I most likely in my drinking days would have hung with guys like you.
In todays world I hate the smell of liquor or booze and stay away from it. Ironic as that may sound, but TRUE!
-VR
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@very-rusty saidAddictions, no matter to what, are often hard to overcome and to those of us who have managed to do so( mine was cigarettes)are deserving of a BIG 👍.
You are correct the world does revolve around the sun not me or YOU.
Some care some don't care. I have experience, you don't, I've been through it, you haven't. I most likely in my drinking days would have hung with guys like you.
In todays world I hate the smell of liquor or booze and stay away from it. Ironic as that may sound, but TRUE!
-VR
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@very-rusty saidWho cares what you like or what you have been through. Do you notice you only talk about yourself? Your problems with alcohol, is yours. Keep it to yourself. Those who enjoy a drink and can drink responsibly are miles ahead of you.
You are correct the world does revolve around the sun not me or YOU.
Some care some don't care. I have experience, you don't, I've been through it, you haven't. I most likely in my drinking days would have hung with guys like you.
In todays world I hate the smell of liquor or booze and stay away from it. Ironic as that may sound, but TRUE!
-VR
And NO .. we would never have been friends and hanging out together. I know your type. One drunk episode and you get one warning and then you are dumped. So you would not be in my group and you would not have gotten the privilege of hanging out with guys like me. Sorry.