22 Jul 21
@very-rusty saidI hope they get themselves on the waggon.
You don't care about people who have drinking issues, and we have them on this site right now, but will not admit it to themselves.
22 Jul 21
@very-rusty saidThink what you want.
You've never had the problem or claim not have had it so have no idea what you're talking about when it comes to Alcohol in my opinion.
@fmf saidSo you know it is tough battle to fight. You know it is no fun trying to beat the addiction then.
I have on three occasions in the last 40 years sat with friends for however long it took - however many days - for them to let the going cold turkey - 2x the booze, 1x smack - run its course, vomit, fisticuffs, tears, the whole thing. I am aware of plenty.
I quit cold turkey on my own. Got rid of my drinking buddies and made new friends joining a chess club back 1993. I've made some life long friendships and ex-alcoholics, one who had quit around the same time as me.
I found the smoking much easier but you couldn't look at me for about 3 months. I went through hundreds of packages of dentine gum. My best friend told me he had to bite his tongue a few times, but knew what I was going through with quitting smoking.
I thought this thread might be useful to try and help people who had drinking issues, not looking for arguments.
-VR
@very-rusty saidI'm not much interested in you crying into your beer, so to speak. Move the goalposts all you want. I was responding to: "I most likely in my drinking days would have hung with guys like you."
So you know it is tough battle to fight. You know it is no fun trying to beat the addiction then.
I quit cold turkey on my own. Got rid of my drinking buddies and made new friends joining a chess club back 1993. I've made some life long friendships and ex-alcoholics, one who had quit around the same time as me.
I found the smoking much easier but you couldn't look a ...[text shortened]... is thread might be useful to try and help people who had drinking issues, not looking for arguments.
@fmf saidAll your interested in is an argument obviously.
I'm not much interested in you crying into your beer, so to speak. Move the goalposts all you want. I was responding to: "I most likely in my drinking days would have hung with guys like you."
I am not, if you want to talk about drinking issues then be happy to do so with you.
-VR
22 Jul 21
@fmf saidI missed this post along the way.
I have on three occasions in the last 40 years sat with friends for however long it took - however many days - for them to let the going cold turkey - 2x the booze, 1x smack - run its course, vomit, fisticuffs, tears, the whole thing. I am aware of plenty.
Good on you, were they able to beat their addictions?
-VR
@very-rusty saidNo thanks.
I am not, if you want to talk about drinking issues then be happy to do so with you.
@fmf saidThank you since March 22, 1992, so I am indeed very proud of my accomplishment.
I'm pleased for you that you climbed on the waggon.
If I can do it, others can do it also, as I said if this thread helps just one person then something has been accomplished.
It is ironic but I can't stand the smell of beer or alcohol now. I don't think there is any possible chance of me falling off as it is like I am living a whole different life now than I was before.
-VR
@very-rusty saidYou would have probably "hung with" me and the people I know here just once if your personality in real life is anything like it portrays itself on this message board. There would most likely be no second invite.
Some care some don't care. I have experience, you don't, I've been through it, you haven't. I most likely in my drinking days would have hung with guys like you.
@very-rusty saidYou are not helping anyone, just making an a$$ of yourself.
You are completely missing the point I QUIT DRINKING IN 1992.
If my issues can help just one person, then I have succeeded in doing something worth while.
-VR
22 Jul 21
I haven't read all of this thread.
But if you're interested @torunn I rarely drink and I miss it.
I watched a programme a while ago about the addictiveness of sugar, I definitely believe that being addictive.
I do know that babies born with foetal alcohol syndrome have much more serious issues than babies born with neonatal abstinence syndrome and for that reason I suspect your daughter is right.
@very-rusty saidThis is what I cannot understand about recovered addicts. You dig yourself into a hole with drug abuse / alcohol. Then when you manage to climb out of that hole, you think you are better than those who are normal and not in any hole. There is nothing to boast about, and your addiction is your business. Leave it there.
Thank you since March 22, 1992, so I am indeed very proud of my accomplishment.
If I can do it, others can do it also, as I said if this thread helps just one person then something has been accomplished.
It is ironic but I can't stand the smell of beer or alcohol now. I don't think there is any possible chance of me falling off as it is like I am living a whole different life now than I was before.
-VR