14 Jul 09
Originally posted by SeitseI don't plan to traditionally marry. I'm looking into the polyamory movement.
I agree with you. It is hard to keep the head on both things and it gets more complicated if you add the responsibility of a family.
So, listen to me, man, for the sake of science: do not marry yet! 😛
There's a clothing optional house party with jacuzzi and pool later this month I'm looking forward to 😉
14 Jul 09
Originally posted by AThousandYoungPolyamory?
I don't plan to traditionally marry. I'm looking into the polyamory movement.
There's a clothing optional house party with jacuzzi and pool later this month I'm looking forward to 😉
Man, it is difficult to handle one woman! And you want two?!?!?!
Or... er... two guys and one girl is what you're looking forward to? 😛
14 Jul 09
Originally posted by SeitseMore like many guys and many girls in a chain...when I don't want to deal with her or am not the right personality for whatever she can find one of her other lovers, and then she and her girlfriend might come over for hot threeways...the possibilities are endless!
Polyamory?
Man, it is difficult to handle one woman! And you want two?!?!?!
Or... er... two guys and one girl is what you're looking forward to? 😛
14 Jul 09
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Originally posted by Seitse1. put aside some time to just not think about it, go out have a good time, get drunk, get laid etc.
So, share some knowledge: what do you do when you feel like throwing the towel?
2. do physical exercise. you can combine this with (1) 😉
3. some people will find it harder to deal with in the winter, when the skies are grey and the nights are long. i'm not sure what to do about this, but it probably helps to be aware of it.
4. think of how good you'll feel achieving the goal you will have worked so hard for. i know this sounds corny, but picture yourself at your graduation ceremony.
5. the flip-side of (4): think about how you'll feel if you throw in the towel, especially after spending a couple of years of your life on it. think about what you might be giving up - the career you wanted, the academic life, whatever. think about what you would be doing instead, if you gave it up.
6. making a schedule can help you feel in control of the task. eg. finish chapter 2 by ddmm, chapter 3 by ddmm etc.
7. make sure you get adequate feedback from supervisors, other students etc. you can ask another student to read through a chapter of your stuff and comment, and do the same for them in return. this will help reassure you that you are not going too far off-track, or will warn you that maybe you are.
8. talk to people who have been / are in the same position. this thread was a good idea.
9. good luck! hope you pull through!
15 Jul 09
One fuds opinion:
I believe I hold the record in my department for taking the longest to finish after entering grad school.
I retrospect I don't think it's really worth it, unless you plan to teach in higher ed, and for that you may have to go abroad. Search the NY Times which did an article on that option recently. The problem has been that unless each professor generates only one Ph.D. student in his lifetime you have a population explosion in Ph.D.'s. You might check out Shop Class as Soul Craft by a U. of Chicago Ph.D. in political philosophy. I also know of a good writer with a PhD in philosophy who owns a small auto glass company and writes perceptively on, e.g., the clash of civilizations.
There are some fields where it's valuable (e.g., in computer science) but according to Thomas Sowell the half-life of the marginal value of a Ph.D. is about three years.
Good luck! 😉
15 Jul 09
Originally posted by BlackampHey thanks a lot for the time & effort, that's encouraging! 🙂
1. put aside some time to just not think about it, go out have a good time, get drunk, get laid etc.
2. do physical exercise. you can combine this with (1) 😉
3. some people will find it harder to deal with in the winter, when the skies are grey and the nights are long. i'm not sure what to do about this, but it probably helps to be aware of it.
4. ...[text shortened]... re in the same position. this thread was a good idea.
9. good luck! hope you pull through!
15 Jul 09
Originally posted by mathemosA valuable point of view, indeed. Thanks for contributing!
One fuds opinion:
I believe I hold the record in my department for taking the longest to finish after entering grad school.
I retrospect I don't think it's really worth it, unless you plan to teach in higher ed, and for that you may have to go abroad. Search the NY Times which did an article on that option recently. The problem has been that unless ea ...[text shortened]... Sowell the half-life of the marginal value of a Ph.D. is about three years.
Good luck! 😉
15 Jul 09
Originally posted by mathemosMmm... I don't agree. In my view, a PhD is needed whenever you plan to do serious research and publish in scientific journals.
The problem has been that unless each professor generates only one Ph.D. student in his lifetime you have a population explosion in Ph.D.'s. [...]
There are some fields where it's valuable (e.g., in computer science) but according to Thomas Sowell the half-life of the marginal value of a Ph.D. is about three years.
Academia is one of the places where you can do such research, but definitely not the only one. So a stable number of ("effective"😉 PhDs can be reached with more than the one-for-one rule that you mention.
15 Jul 09
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I plan to start my PhD within two years. If anything goes normal, it takes five years to complete but some people can accomplish it in the shorter amount of time. I must say though, that I've met significant amount of crappy PhDs over the years. In some countries, criteria is just too low. Of course, it depends from the field to field.
Since I have to hunt my PhD in Finland, I will fall in depression and get into drinking problems when the polar night strikes in. 😛
15 Jul 09
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Originally posted by ivan2908Why Finland?
I plan to start my PhD within two years. If anything goes normal, it takes five years to complete but some people can accomplish it in the shorter amount of time. I must say though, that I've met significant amount of crappy PhDs over the years. In some countries, criteria is just too low. Of course, it depends from the field to field.
Since I have to h ...[text shortened]... d, I will fall in depression and get into drinking problems when the polar night strikes in. 😛
* Drinking: check
* Long nights: check
* Polar bears: none
15 Jul 09
Originally posted by ivan2908In what area are you doing yours?
I plan to start my PhD within two years. If anything goes normal, it takes five years to complete but some people can accomplish it in the shorter amount of time. I must say though, that I've met significant amount of crappy PhDs over the years. In some countries, criteria is just too low. Of course, it depends from the field to field.
Since I have to h ...[text shortened]... d, I will fall in depression and get into drinking problems when the polar night strikes in. 😛
15 Jul 09
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Originally posted by SeitseI met Finnish teacher on some masterclass last week. He said to me that countrary to beliefs of southern Europeans, Finnish people are very temperamentic. Is that true ? He told me that is very easy to be involved in the fist fights !
Why Finland?
* Drinking: check
* Long nights: check
* Polar bears: none