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03 Jun 12
Originally posted by Westside Mobster10. "Life is not fair; get used to it." William Henry Gates III (multi-billionaire and co-founder of Microsoft Corporation)
9. "I intend to leave after my death a large fund for the promotion of the peace idea, but I am skeptical as to its results." Alfred Bernhard Nobel (inventor of dynamite and the nobel prize)
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03 Jun 12
Originally posted by Grampy BobbyWhich is, let's be honest, attractively said but factually just wrong.
Faulty logic or inattention underly your question. How many consecutive mistakes get made by whom isn't the issue or premise of the quote. It's who makes the "next to last mistake". Last one loses.
Richard
04 Jun 12
Originally posted by ChessPraxisI had a specific game in mind when I wrote my post ... but why clutter up the GF with diagrams when you already know I'm right? 😉
You're one of those mad genius type players. I know you're right and could put up several FENs to back up your claims. (Let's hope for this) 🙂
04 Jun 12
Originally posted by Grampy BobbyAhh, but he didn't say 'last mistake loses', now, did he?
Faulty logic or inattention underly your question. How many consecutive mistakes get made by whom isn't the issue or premise of the quote. It's who makes the "next to last mistake". Last one loses.
He said 'next to last mistake wins'.
The two statements are not equivalent.
If anyone tells you to come out of retirement and teach logic, don't listen to them.
04 Jun 12
Originally posted by Westside Mobster11. ”The only thing in this world that gives orders is balls.” Tony Montana (fictional character from the film ”Scarface&rdquo😉
10. "Life is not fair; get used to it." William Henry Gates III (multi-billionaire and co-founder of Microsoft Corporation)
04 Jun 12
Originally posted by SwissGambit40) "Victory goes to the player who makes the next-to-last mistake." -Chessmaster Savielly Grigorievitch Tartakower
Ahh, but he didn't say 'last mistake loses', now, did he?
He said 'next to last mistake wins'.
The two statements are not equivalent.
If anyone tells you to come out of retirement and teach logic, don't listen to them.
Yes. Implied and, therefore, by extension the last mistake loses. You're stooping quite low to split hairs and manufacture distinctions without a difference. Shame for shame.
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04 Jun 12
Originally posted by Grampy BobbyBut there is a difference. It's not my fault you can't see it.
40) "Victory goes to the player who makes the next-to-last mistake." -Chessmaster Savielly Grigorievitch Tartakower
Yes. Implied and, therefore, by extension the last mistake loses. You're stooping quite low to split hairs and manufacture distinctions without a difference. Shame for shame.
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48) "You can't fix stupid." -Ron White
05 Jun 12
Originally posted by Westside Mobster12. "Chess holds its master in its own bonds, shackling the mind and brain so that the inner freedom of the very strongest must suffer." Albert Einstein (scientist)
11. ”The only thing in this world that gives orders is balls.” Tony Montana (fictional character from the film ”Scarface&rdquo😉
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05 Jun 12
Originally posted by Grampy BobbyTartakower was wrong; you are wrong; moreover, the conclusion you draw from his statement does not follow from it. No amount of intelligent discourse will prove anything to you, so let me illustrate it with the undeniable evidence of a sample game fragment (not from a real game, but it proves the point):
40) "Victory goes to the player who makes the next-to-last mistake." -Chessmaster Savielly Grigorievitch Tartakower
Yes. Implied and, therefore, by extension the last mistake loses. You're stooping quite low to split hairs and manufacture distinctions without a difference. Shame for shame.
Thus we have a game in which the next-to-last mistake should not have won, but lost; the last mistake did not lose, but draw; and the importance of the last mistake does not necessarily follow from that of the next-to-last. Q.E.D.
Richard