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11 Nov 09
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Originally posted by Scotty70This is entirely the choice of the person who is, or feels that they are, a victim. If they choose to let the past fester and affect their present, then they do. If they choose to let go of the past and not allow the past to define their present and future, then they do; but, it's still a choice.
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4.Whoever said time heals all wounds has obviously not been involved in such a matter.
11 Nov 09
Originally posted by StarrmanWhat I actually realize is you erased what I said and typed in something else in the "Original Post" block. I didn't know you could do that, the thought never occured to me to try.
There was no dishonesty there, you were clearly meant to see what was said.
Tell me you actually realised that...
Some people are just more devious and dishonest that way I guess.
11 Nov 09
Originally posted by Ice ColdSo judge Lyle is a medical expert?
http://www.ocucc.org/DeathPenalty/Problems.htm
• Problems with Lethal Injection as a Method of Execution
Since 1977, the method of execution in the United States has increasingly become by lethal injection, hailed by proponents as a “humane” methodology. We now know that this is not the case (Liptak, NYT, 10/7/2003). We also kn ...[text shortened]... ber 2, 2002 or gronerj@chi.osu.edu
Liptak, Adam, The New York Times, October 7, 2003
11 Nov 09
Originally posted by Sam The ShamAgain, replacing the argument at hand with distraction. How about returning to the topic instead of acting like a child in a playground.
What I actually realize is you erased what I said and typed in something else in the "Original Post" block. I didn't know you could do that, the thought never occured to me to try.
Some people are just more devious and dishonest that way I guess.
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Originally posted by scacchipazzoyour post reeks of bloodlust, vengeance and hate. obviously you have a strong urge to get someone you don't even know killed.
Forfeiture of life is not legalized murder. This bastard forfeited his life. Regrettably he was executed via lethal injection. Nothing compared to the terror felt by the greater DC area. The dastardly coward had no words to say. No remorse, no regrets. He died for what he did. Nothing more. The state did not murder this sorry piece of garbage. I would s e victims families felt. I am sorry but you do sound sympathetic indeed no matter what you say!
now, where's the difference between that and shooting random people on the street?
well, for one, at least you haven't acted on your urge. still, a case could be made that people like you should be put 'to sleep', just as a precaution. just like is often argued on preventing convicted criminals from repeating the offence by death sentence.
11 Nov 09
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Originally posted by Hand of Hecatewell on that I sort of agree. lethal injection, shot in the head, hammered to death, I don't see much if any difference. in fact, I'd probably prefer a messy hands-on graphic execution instead of trying to hide a brutal act as 'putting to sleep'. at least everybody would know what's being done, and there wouldn't be any chance of rationalizing the responsibility from taking one's life away.
Beating him to death with a hammer on the steps of the courthouse might have been excessive, but, still preferable to the prolonged wait from sentence to justice.
a slow torture would be different, but all fast ways of execution seem roughly equal to me.
11 Nov 09
Originally posted by Badwaternice of you to say what they should be feeling.
This is entirely the choice of the person who is, or feels that they are, a victim. If they choose to let the past fester and affect their present, then they do. If they choose to let go of the past and not allow the past to define their present and future, then they do; but, it's still a choice.
11 Nov 09
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/2009/11/11/2009-11-11_families_of_victims_of_dc_sniper_rampage_.html
Families of DC sniper victims celebrate John Allen Muhammad's execution
BY Brian Kates
Wednesday, November 11th 2009, 10:54 AM
Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/2009/11/11/2009-11-11_families_of_victims_of_dc_sniper_rampage_.html#ixzz0WZe3ygHS
He was happy to watch the sniper die.
"I feel better. I think I can breathe better," Nelson Rivera said as he watched the execution of convicted killer John Allen Muhammad. "I'm glad he's gone because he's not going to hurt anyone else."
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11 Nov 09
Originally posted by Anonymousnumber1Most of us are fortunate enough to go through life untouched by violence. We operate under the illusion that everyone we meet has a reasonable moral/ethical grounding. We expect people to obey the laws of society.
i can't read your mind, hoh
i'm open-minded, so please explain to me why i'm being rational, yet wrong on this
These are not unreasonable expectations, still bad things happen to good people.
If you, for some bizarre reason, killed another person, what would you expect/want your punishment to be. For myself, I would expect the death penalty. To kill an innocent is the worst thing you can do, you take everything they are, will or could be. I would expect to lose everything in return. I would hold others to the same standard.
This may or may not be coherent as I have been drinking for hours.