“If you can keep your head when all about you
Are losing theirs and blaming it on you,
If you can trust yourself when all men doubt you,
But make allowance for their doubting too;
If you can wait and not be tired by waiting,
Or being lied about, don't deal in lies,
Or being hated, don't give way to hating,
And yet don't look too good, nor talk too wise
If you can dream - and not make dreams your master;
If you can think - and not make thoughts your aim;
If you can meet with Triumph and Disaster
And treat those two impostors just the same;
If you can bear to hear the truth you've spoken
Twisted by knaves to make a trap for fools,
Or watch the things you gave your life to, broken,
And stoop and build 'em up with worn-out tools
If you can make one heap of all your winnings
And risk it on one turn of pitch-and-toss,
And lose, and start again at your beginnings
And never breathe a word about your loss;
If you can force your heart and nerve and sinew
To serve your turn long after they are gone,
And so hold on when there is nothing in you
Except the will which says to them: 'Hold on!'
If you can talk with crowds and keep your virtue,
Or walk with Kings - nor lose the common touch,
If neither foes nor loving friends can hurt you,
If all men count with you, but none too much;
If you can fill the unforgiving minute
With sixty seconds' worth of distance run,
Yours is the Earth and everything that's in it,
And - which is more - you'll be a Man, my son!”
―Rudyard Kipling, If: A Father's Advice to His Son
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Originally posted by Grampy BobbyYes yes, very good poem and all that.
“If you can keep your head when all about you
Are losing theirs and blaming it on you,
If you can trust yourself when all men doubt you,
But make allowance for their doubting too;
If you can wait and not be tired by waiting,
Or being lied about, don't deal in lies,
Or being hated, don't give way to hating,
And yet don't look too good, nor talk ...[text shortened]... - which is more - you'll be a Man, my son!”
―Rudyard Kipling, If: A Father's Advice to His Son
But are going to accept my challenge to deny before God what I claim you did?
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Originally posted by robbie carrobieJust now I was a "treasure". I you OK?
Yes clearly a superhuman like yourself has no need of warm human commendation, you have yourself as the source of all power, my bad, we mere mortals need such things.
Ahhh, I see now, you are having little troll.
Very well done, very good.
Originally posted by robbie carrobieHave you ever wondered why they are "biased" --as you said?
Two witnesses who are clearly unbiased and show no propensity whatsoever to put the boot into Bobby at every turn. Page after page after page of attempting to vilify him. I am sorry Seitse but citing divesjeester and FMF as witnesses against Bobs is hardly likely to convince anyone. Furthermore there is no real malicious intent in the evidence that ...[text shortened]... down' is a common enough phrase and may be employed with no reference to any medical condition.
Sorry, but once a minion always a minion. The fact that you have
been trapped already once by a cult makes you biased in your
comments going forward.
Originally posted by Grampy BobbyFMF already clarified it for you. Not going to feed you a thread
Thread and Page Number please.
which is deleted.
As said, I won't be a cry baby like you, run to the admins or alert,
but we all know what you did and in your conscience shall dwell
you sorry excuse of a so-called Christian.
Originally posted by Seitse"If you can bear to hear the truth you've spoken
FMF already clarified it for you. Not going to feed you a thread
which is deleted.
As said, I won't be a cry baby like you, run to the admins or alert,
but we all know what you did and in your conscience shall dwell
you sorry excuse of a so-called Christian.
Twisted by knaves to make a trap for fools..."
--Rudyard Kipling
Originally posted by SeitseHaha trapped? but I made a fully informed and conscious decision. It was one of the best decisions of my life.
Have you ever wondered why they are "biased" --as you said?
Sorry, but once a minion always a minion. The fact that you have
been trapped already once by a cult makes you biased in your
comments going forward.
This vilification of GB has FAILED, no evidence except to some mythical thread which conveniently cannot be located, two not entirely reputable or unbiased character witnesses and an attempt to construe that 'downwardly spiralling', is a reference to a medical condition. Its the ragged vestige of some ancient banner fluttering on a barb wired fence.