07 Jan 10
Originally posted by trev33You can get Kaspersky 2010 for about 25 quid and that also runs through your hard drive and registry and tries to find any 'left-overs' related to the program.
i've tried reinstalling firefox and avg but it won't.
i completely removed avg from my system to see if i could then install it but i keep getting the message that the 'file is corrupt' whatever download a try.
I used AVG for 5 years. I have use Kasp 2010 for 6 months and it is awesome.
People used to reall knock it.... but the reviews lately say 2010 is probably the best currently available. Buy it, and forget AVG. Kasp will go deep deep inside and clear out old crap too, that Ccleaner also does.
To quote PCPro and PCAdvisor/UK:
"Kaspersky Internet Security 2010 has arrived rather early this year, yet it brings several upgrades that make clear the team hasn't been rushing to release.
The first change you'll notice is the interface, which has received its annual overhaul. The front end uses big, clear tabs and more white space than before: at first glance it looks exceptionally friendly. Unfortunately, behind this clean design lurk a plethora of links and sub-panes, and though the suite is pleasingly configurable, it's not as simple to get where you're going as it is with, for example, G Data.
Naturally, there are some technical updates too. One you might notice is the browser toolbar for Internet Explorer and Firefox, which now includes a button to launch a mouse-controlled onscreen keyboard. You can use this to defeat keyloggers.
Another new feature is Safe Run, which lets you run any program you're uncertain about in a sandboxed environment where it can't access your system files. Safe Run a browser and you're immune to drive-by downloads. Kaspersky 2010 also makes smarter use of online resources when scanning: bad files can be instantly blacklisted from a central database, while whitelisted files don't need to be fully scanned, saving time.
Other additions include improved rootkit detection, IM monitoring and web advert suppression, but thankfully all these extras don't make Kaspersky a bloated suite. On our test system, the suite added a mere six seconds to boot-up time, including just one extra second of CPU activity after the desktop appeared. The total system RAM footprint with the suite installed rose from 528MB to 611MB – almost as low as Avira's 595MB.
The firewall remains one of our favourites too: as with previous versions, as soon as we attempted to prove the system, Kaspersky leapt in and blocked our attacking PC."
It cost 18 quid here, but my estimate of 25 was wrong...... it's nearer 40 in UK.
07 Jan 10
Originally posted by hopscotchCCleaner doesn't aggressively look for program specific left-overs, although it will usually get most of them. It doesn't kill useless folders either.
Ccleaner does that.
The registry isn't my biggest gripe with crappy uninstall routines overall, as the folders that get left behind always heap up, especially if you test lots of software like I do. Revo zaps apps you want gone.
I love CCleaner, but partner it with Revo, plus Auslogics or MyDefrag now and then and keep that drive lean and mean.
07 Jan 10
Originally posted by PalynkaI think there's a problem with the download feature on his current version of firefox, I'd like to know if he's able to download anything at all.
Try downloading chrome, restart in safe mode. Then reboot install chrome, download FF and do a fresh install.
07 Jan 10
Originally posted by CrowleyI've not used revo before, but will give it a try. It's not very often that I uninstall firefox, and I would normally manually clean out my applications folder of any old programs when I need to, which is rare. I think I defrag maybe once every two years... there's no real benefit from all that disk grinding.
CCleaner doesn't aggressively look for program specific left-overs, although it will usually get most of them. It doesn't kill useless folders either.
The registry isn't my biggest gripe with crappy uninstall routines overall, as the folders that get left behind always heap up, especially if you test lots of software like I do. Revo zaps apps you want gone. ...[text shortened]... tner it with Revo, plus Auslogics or MyDefrag now and then and keep that drive lean and mean.
07 Jan 10
Originally posted by mikelomAll in one suites are nice'n'easy, but I don't like to have one app that can fail and then take all my security with it.
You can get Kaspersky 2010 for about 25 quid and that also runs through your hard drive and registry and tries to find any 'left-overs' related to the program.
I used AVG for 5 years. I have use Kasp 2010 for 6 months and it is awesome.
People used to reall knock it.... but the reviews lately say 2010 is probably the best currently available. Bu ...[text shortened]... It cost 18 quid here, but my estimate of 25 was wrong...... it's nearer 40 in UK.
Plus, why pay for stuff you can get for free that, when used correctly, will be on par or even better than a paid suite?
07 Jan 10
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Originally posted by hopscotchI'll try a whole bunch of software - I'm a self-confessed open source junky. I can always justify a gig of app downloads, because I "might need something like this in the future!".
I've not used revo before, but will give it a try. It's not very often that I uninstall firefox, and I would normally manually clean out my applications folder of any old programs when I need to, which is rare. I think I defrag maybe once every two years... there's no real benefit from all that disk grinding.
Then once or twice a month I purge all the crap I collected. Revo works very well here.
I might defrag once every 3/4 months. In the FAT16/32 days it was necessary, not so much with huge, quick drives and NTFS, but it does help a little when you use a drive like I do...
07 Jan 10
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Originally posted by CrowleyWhat's your view on portable applications? I tend to prefer portable versions of programs I use only sporadically because (I think) they clutter my registry less and so do not slow down my normal programs as much. I also don't like the fact that when I install stuff normally, there's a whole lot going on that is automated and that I have little control over...
I'll try a whole bunch of software - I'm a self-confessed open source junky. I can always justify a gig of app downloads, because I "might need something like this in the future!".
Then once or twice a month I purge all the crap I collected. Revo works very well here.
I might defrag once every 3/4 months. In the FAT16/32 days it was necessary, not so muc ...[text shortened]... ith huge, quick drives and NTFS, but it does help a little when you use a drive like I do...
But I don't know if I'm fooling myself into thinking that portable is better in that sense.
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07 Jan 10
Originally posted by hopscotchsuccess.
There are ways to download firefox through your command prompt, but they're specific to your operating system and you'll have to try a few different things before you get it right. The best thing to do is google search "download firefox command prompt" and go through a few options, they're usually step by step instructions. Make sure you enter the latest FF version in the last step as some of the instructions I've seen are a little old.
reinstalling avg is still a bitch though, apparently it's 'not compatible' with something on my computer. sure i'll be able to figure it out though.
07 Jan 10
Originally posted by CrowleyAs you said, it's easy - and it probably does a close 95% to that which the multi independent apps can.
All in one suites are nice'n'easy, but I don't like to have one app that can fail and then take all my security with it.
Plus, why pay for stuff you can get for free that, when used correctly, will be on par or even better than a paid suite?
If it fails..... there is a paid for back up disc and immediate update, once the infected is deleted.....or so I believe. I haven't had that luxury yet.
I did have the disaster that Trev maybe having now - 7 months ago. AVG stuffed up badly, and wouldn't update or even be removed from system.
We pay for ease, don't we? Those of us who aren't on computers all day long, that is. Remember, some of aren't online all day, or have the luxury to research 'best of' etc. A full suite, and a good one like Kasp 2010, in my book is a good home buy, yes??
07 Jan 10
Originally posted by PalynkaPortable apps are great. They may have a larger memory footprint than installed apps, but overall they work well, don't install crap you don't need like shared DLLS and systray memory hogs. Plus, you can just delete a folder and it's gone.
What's your view on portable applications? I tend to prefer portable versions of programs I use only sporadically because (I think) they clutter my registry less and so do not slow down my normal programs as much. I also don't like the fact that when I install stuff normally, there's a whole lot going on that is automated and that I have little control over. ...[text shortened]... But I don't know if I'm fooling myself into thinking that portable is better in that sense.
A bloated registry is not a performance hog on a proper system that is not a dinosaur (older than 5 years), as apps don't search through it, they access specific indexed keys. But, keeping it clean is not a bad thing either...
If you want to tweak for performance, rather disable startup programs using CCleaner or msconfig and disable services you don't need.
We have an old PC at another branch that I tweaked like this and it's usable now, even though it's running XP with only 512MB RAM. Sure, it can only run the accounting software and has limited networking, but it runs.
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07 Jan 10
Originally posted by trev33i spoke to early 😞
success.
reinstalling avg is still a bitch though, apparently it's 'not compatible' with something on my computer. sure i'll be able to figure it out though.
firefox crashed a couple of mins after i posted that and i'm just after getting it up running again. now convinced it's more of a system problem.
07 Jan 10
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Originally posted by mikelomBut your attitude is the wrong, this is the problem I have.
We pay for ease, don't we? Those of us who aren't on computers all day long, that is. Remember, some of aren't online all day, or have the luxury to research 'best of' etc. A full suite, and a good one like Kasp 2010, in my book is a good home buy, yes??
Would you use a CNC laser cutter, or even drive a car without finding out how it works, getting some lessons/training and continually practising the acquired skills?
Computers are just tools, but people just don't want to learn anything about basic security - they just want to click through an install and never worry about it again.
They invariably fall prey to viruses or malware, or just software glitches and are then up in arms because their 'paid for wonder-product' didn't save them from ruin.
These people also never back up. Anything.
I don't mind, these are the people who put food on my table, but what pisses me off is when they invariably get buggered by a piece of software down the line and then blame me, because I "fixed it a few months ago".
07 Jan 10
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Originally posted by trev33Probably there's an issue between AVG and the latest FF update. I'd drop AVG and see how it runs, or just use Chrome.
i spoke to early 😞
firefox crashed a couple of mins after i posted that and i'm just after getting it up running again. now convinced it's more of a system problem.
07 Jan 10
Originally posted by CrowleyDo you get in your car and wonder if mikelom designed the seat security, steering column collapse, seat belt operating system, A-pillar side impact zone and the front end crush bars?
But your attitude is the wrong, this is the problem I have.
Would you use a CNC laser cutter, or even drive a car without finding out how it works, getting some lessons/training and continually practising the acquired skills?
Computers are just tools, but people just don't want to learn anything about basic security - they just want to click through ...[text shortened]... piece of software down the line and then blame me, because I "fixed it a few months ago".
How far can you take this?