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07 Feb 20
@divegeester
'Nobody cares and no one who has a life is interested. Just be yourself and stop being pink diva. Jeez.'
Except dippy divvy who cares enough to start a thread on a chess site forum. Jeez
08 Feb 20
@biffo-konker saidHim being gay isn’t a big deal, why would you think it is?
@divegeester
'Nobody cares and no one who has a life is interested. Just be yourself and stop being pink diva. Jeez.'
Except dippy divvy who cares enough to start a thread on a chess site forum. Jeez
@divegeester saidIt's an interesting thread and we are now on the second page now without anyone being mean. 🙂
Him being gay isn’t a big deal, why would you think it is?
It's a big deal for him apparently. You only get one chance to come out and he wanted to have his. What this the most elegant way? Yeah maybe not.
As a celebrity of sorts its easy to think everything is done in that context, that he is somehow trying to increase his celebrity. Look at me, I'm Gay!
Not sure that is what is happening here. Maybe.
There are a lot of people who are glad he said what everyone already knew. There are some who are going to say the same thing today. Or tomorrow. But it can be hard and it can be scary and having a celebrity do it on national television can maybe make it easier. Maybe that is what is going on here - again not sure.
If you are a 14 year old gay male living in in Chelsea or Fulham, what this guy did on TV most certainly matters.
Kudos for starting the thread, it's a discussion worth having.
@divegeester saidI’m aware of a similar situation, a married couple of the same age, the husband suddenly stayed out all night then returned home with a bizarre excuse. Then he disappeared again for good. He’d left his wife and two tiny children to move in with a man quite a lot older. We were all pretty disgusted at the time. The wife developed psychological problems through the shock and abandonment.
Being homosexual in the UK hasn’t been an issue for decades, in show business itself even longer. No one anywhere is going to condemn him for being what he is, its a non issue, it’s PR, it’s using your celebrity as a platform to overplay your own sexuality and draw attention to yourself. If a child behaved like this a parent would say something like “just ignore them”.
Schofield has put his family first for a very long time. Now he can feel free to have a homosexual relationship with his family’s approval. Getting older gives you the motivation to make dramatic changes to your life because you know you have limited time left.
08 Feb 20
@drewnogal saidSurely this is the normal and right thing to do.
Schofield has put his family first for a very long time.
08 Feb 20
@divegeester saidBeing a public person, one needs to deal with life in a different way. A difficult way.
Surely this is the normal and right thing to do.
@hope saidI’m not convinced that homosexual people need to “come out” at all, not anymore. We are a liberated a largely tolerant society and I think him weeping and telling everyone how brave he is, is disingenuous and unnecessary in contemporary UK society. Furthermore as drewnogal highlights, he has the full support of his family.
You only get one chance to come out and he wanted to have his. What this the most elegant way? Yeah maybe not.
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08 Feb 20
@divegeester saidyeah if he prefers blokes thats his loss and us hetros win win win......bad joke i know sorry in advance if i have upset any libertines.
I’m not convinced that homosexual people need to “come out” at all, not anymore. We are a liberated a largely tolerant society and I think him weeping and telling everyone how breve he is, is disingenuous and unnecessary in contemporary UK society.
08 Feb 20
@divegeester saidand you may be right ... the spectacle was not easy on the eyes 😞
I’m not convinced that homosexual people need to “come out” at all, not anymore. We are a liberated a largely tolerant society and I think him weeping and telling everyone how breve he is, is disingenuous and unnecessary in contemporary UK society.
Sexuality and gender identification is complicated though. We think about it a lot. And like many things in life it's hard to be perceived as "different". Which can quickly be redefined as "the other".
08 Feb 20
@hope saidAssuming we don't hurt anybody, should there be a need to tell people we don't know about our sexual preferences? I think deceit is what should be dealt with.
and you may be right ... the spectacle was not easy on the eyes 😞
Sexuality and gender identification is complicated though. We think about it a lot. And like many things in life it's hard to be perceived as "different". Which can quickly be redefined as "the other".
08 Feb 20
@hope saidWell you are generally right of course, but you are also conflating different issues; Schofield doesn’t have a gender identification problem and no one is thinking of him as being “different”.
and you may be right ... the spectacle was not easy on the eyes 😞
Sexuality and gender identification is complicated though. We think about it a lot. And like many things in life it's hard to be perceived as "different". Which can quickly be redefined as "the other".
I honestly feel that this public weeping and handwringing from a person who is pretty much unilaterally liked and respected by the public and has the full support of his family is not helping other less fortunate people with genuine issues and who don’t have the life structure that he has.
08 Feb 20
@divegeester saidI’d agree, where small children are part of a family.
Surely this is the normal and right thing to do.
08 Feb 20
@divegeester saidWhere did I say that I did?
Him being gay isn’t a big deal, why would you think it is?
08 Feb 20
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@biffo-konker saidYou didn’t but I thought that was implied in you challenging me in saying it isn’t an issue and no one should be interested. I’m just asking you if it is an issue or not. You don’t have to answer if you don’t want to.
Where did I say that I did?