24 Jan 07
Originally posted by arrakiswell i appreciate the help. maybe i will look into that
It calculates more than that. For example, if you went to bet at 3:00 am, woke up 3 times only for a few minutes and then slept till 10:00 am, the time is 7 hours minus a few minutes... But in reality, it took you some time to fall asleep, and each time you woke up it took a lot more than just a few minutes to get back into the "deep sleep" that your body re ...[text shortened]... u aren't spending enough time in REM sleep) may be a place for a professional to help.
24 Jan 07
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Originally posted by zeppelin xYou've got too much on your mind, boy.
that test is common sense...time between when you fall asleep and wake up minus the time you are awake in between...the problem i have is when i have to get up at 6-7am. when i have the opportunity to sleep in i can go to bed at 1am and get up at 12noon. but i can never fall asleep untill around 1am even after a long week
Stop thinking about things and just go to sleep already!
Here's a beer (throwing Hefeweisen your way), that should help.
😉
Edit: Wait, you are only 18, I take that beer back!
24 Jan 07
Originally posted by mlpriorProbably a nice warm female body next to him would work wonders... 😵
You've got too much on your mind, boy.
Stop thinking about things and just go to sleep already!
Here's a beer (throwing Hefeweisen your way), that should help.
😉
Edit: Wait, you are only 18, I take that beer back!
Amazing that he's not old enough to drink a beer, but he's considered old enough for sex - and to die in the army for his country.
24 Jan 07
Originally posted by arrakisMaybe the girl is the reason he's not sleeping!
Probably a nice warm female body next to him would work wonders... 😵
Amazing that he's not old enough to drink a beer, but he's considered old enough for sex - and to die in the army for his country.
😠
Tell her to lay off and give it a rest! A body has got to sleep.
24 Jan 07
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Originally posted by mlpriorNah, he's laying there THINKING about her all night. If he could actually DO anything he'd be sound asleep within 15 minutes.
Maybe the girl is the reason he's not sleeping!
😠
Tell her to lay off and give it a rest! A body has got to sleep.
Edit: 18 yr-old having sex
1st time: 3 minutes
2nd time: 5 minutes
3rd time: 7-9 minutes
Then... total exhaustion and the best sleep ever!
24 Jan 07
Originally posted by Michelle PlassanDoes the fact that they are usually crap at chess have any bearing on the matter ?
they say some of the most genius people get by on next to no sleep; if you look at some of the greats they did most of their incredible works or had the most brillent ideas from sleep depreivation...
also look at mothers who have very little sleep are able to function so well making lunches taking kids to school going to work then coming home to ...[text shortened]... d clean... and in some amazing way also have time for their friends and hobbies such as chess...
24 Jan 07
Apparantly people who sleep 7 hours a night live longer than people who sleep 8+ hours a night (think i heard it in one of those random news stories somewhere).
Alcohol also prevents REM sleep, so having a nightcap may help you sometimes, if you have too much to get you to sleep, you will actually be worse off!
24 Jan 07
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Originally posted by welsharnieInteresting how statistics work.
Apparantly people who sleep 7 hours a night live longer than people who sleep 8+ hours a night (think i heard it in one of those random news stories somewhere).
Let's look at an example:
- You drove your car 12,000 miles last year.
- Your monthly car payment plus insurance was $400/month
How much did it cost you per mile to drive the car (excluding gas and/or repairs)?
Answer> $.40 cents a mile.
But if you had driven the car 25% less than that mileage, 8,000 miles, then the cost per mile for driving the car was $.60 cents a mile.
Since the price of gas is the same for each case, statistics would show that the more you drive your vehicle the less it will cost per mile!
I think that the reason statistics show people who get less sleep live longer is obvious. They are more active in their lives.
24 Jan 07
Originally posted by arrakisWOW!!!! And if you drove your car 16 million miles per year, the cost per mile would be $0.0003. How cheap is that!!! 😵
Interesting how statistics work.
Let's look at an example:
- You drove your car 12,000 miles last year.
- Your monthly car payment plus insurance was $400/month
How much did it cost you per mile to drive the car (excluding gas and/or repairs)?
Answer> $.40 cents a mile.
But if you had driven the car 25% less than that mileage, 8,000 miles, then ...[text shortened]... ics show people who get less sleep live longer is obvious. They are more active in their lives.
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Originally posted by zeppelin xI suspect your natural sleeping rythm just is such. some people wake up early, but have hard time staying up late even if they had no reason to wake up early. some, like me, are just the opposite.
that test is common sense...time between when you fall asleep and wake up minus the time you are awake in between...the problem i have is when i have to get up at 6-7am. when i have the opportunity to sleep in i can go to bed at 1am and get up at 12noon. but i can never fall asleep untill around 1am even after a long week
the rythm is developed during the first couple of years after you're born, and it's very very hard to change afterwards. -I tried waking up early & going to bed early throughout all of my school years up to high school. it never worked. I would just lie in the bed, tossing and turning 2-3 hours, and walk around half asleep until noon after I got up.
then, after high school I started painting all night, went to bed at 4-5 am, woke up 11-12 am. it was pure bliss, I was never tired, and I fell asleep within 5 minutes.
even now, I never go to bed before 3 am, usually 4-5 am, and wake up around 9-12 depending on what I have to do. I fall asleep in 1-3 minutes.
I tried the 'normal' rythm for 12 years, and it never worked. some of us just belong to the nightbreed I guess. (I have other stuff disturbing my sleep though, like the schizophrenic lady upstairs, screaming to imaginary people all through the night etc.)
24 Jan 07
Originally posted by wormwoodI am like you in that respect. Not good if you have to start work at a normal time. 🙁 For me, that means that I constantly get too little sleep during the week, and then I sleep a lot during the weekend. If it gets too bad during the week, I sometimes take a nap, which messes up my sleep pattern even more.
I suspect your natural sleeping rythm just is such. some people wake up early, but have hard time staying up late even if they had no reason to wake up early. some, like me, are just the opposite.
the rythm is developed during the first couple of years after you're born, and it's very very hard to change afterwards. -I tried waking up early & goin ...[text shortened]... e the schizophrenic lady upstairs, screaming to imaginary people all through the night etc.)
As you say, these sleep patterns are real and difficult or impossible to change. At university I attended a seminar about chronobiology and chronomedicine. Among other things we learned that research has shown that "morning people" (people who naturally go to bed and get up early) who worked night-shifts had a far higher risk to get health problems than other night-shift workers. They were unable to adapt to that rhythm.
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Originally posted by NordlysI've noticed you're usually up late at night like me. 🙂
I am like you in that respect. Not good if you have to start work at a normal time. 🙁 For me, that means that I constantly get too little sleep during the week, and then I sleep a lot during the weekend. If it gets too bad during the week, I sometimes take a nap, which messes up my sleep pattern even more.
As you say, these sleep patterns are real and di get health problems than other night-shift workers. They were unable to adapt to that rhythm.
yea, there's all kinds of crazy health problems you can get from night-shift if your body can't take it. increased cancer risk, lowered immune defense etc, which all translates to lowered life expectancy of course.
I wonder if there's similar results for 'night people' forcing themselves to the rythm of the 'morning people? -I've only seen studies focusing on night-shift workers...
24 Jan 07
Originally posted by arrakisWith regards to what you say about the car, which car will last longer, however? Like cars, humans have only so much work they can take. yes, exercise helps prolong life, but too much can also shorten it.
Interesting how statistics work.
Let's look at an example:
- You drove your car 12,000 miles last year.
- Your monthly car payment plus insurance was $400/month
How much did it cost you per mile to drive the car (excluding gas and/or repairs)?
Answer> $.40 cents a mile.
But if you had driven the car 25% less than that mileage, 8,000 miles, then ...[text shortened]... ics show people who get less sleep live longer is obvious. They are more active in their lives.
I wonder if whoever did the survey tried to compare people who did similar amounts of exercise?
25 Jan 07
Originally posted by zeppelin xThe older a person becomes the more value sleep has. For example, one of my friends was complaining to me that his wife keeps waking him up for sex...
i do not know a lot about sleep...but there are very few things better than sleeping in
I hope I don't live to be that old.