Originally posted by wormwoodPhil's falsetto on Cowboys from Hell is what makes it unlistenable to me. Tracks like Shattered, Cemetary Gates, Cowboys from Hell are just too damn hokey for my tastes.
far beyond driven was the point when pantera got too boring for me... at first I didn't like cowboys from hell either, mostly because of the falsetto singing. but then the album grew on me, and when far beyond driven came out, I suddenly realized I was missing the old singing and it's variety. too bad the cd mastering in cowboys from hell was still in it's ...[text shortened]... men from the hc scene had turned into angry middle-aged men. there's still hope for us all!
Originally posted by darvlayIt's called "American Hardcore", it's the movie from the book of the same name. There are parts of it that I have issues with. But over all I thought it was decent.
This movie you guys speak of sounds like it would be right up my alley. Is it like a hardcore version of "The Decline of Western Civilization"?
Topics covered:
- Bad Brains
- Minor Threat and the rise of Ian MacKaye
- Straight edge (just a beginning history of the term and mind set of the straight edge youth at that time)
- Black Flag and the rise of Henry Garfield AKA Henry Rollins
- Circle Jerks just briefly though
- SS Decontrol
They even talk to Mike Patton and Flea.
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Originally posted by AndrewKnottwell then they could've interviewed me instead, and get some actual content. -the problem I have with phil being there is that he really wasn't there. same with moby, who also likes to make noise about his 'hc background'. not to put either of them down or anything, but when we're talking about rollins, morris, flanagan etc, we're not talking about guys like moby & anselmo. they're completely different scene and era. that's like talking about 80's metal and bringing up rammstein.
Well mainly cause he always talks about being a fan of hardcore...
but of course the moby & anselmo parts are just a tiny fraction of the document, which was pretty nice all in all.
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Originally posted by wormwoodWho's the better Black Flag vocalist? Morris or Rollins??
well then they could've interviewed me instead, and get some actual content. -the problem I have with phil being there is that he really wasn't there. same with moby, who also likes to make noise about his 'hc background'. not to put either of them down or anything, but when we're talking about rollins, morris, flanagan etc, we're not talking about guys lik selmo parts are just a tiny fraction of the document, which was pretty nice all in all.
EDIT - Or Cadena, if you like...
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Originally posted by darvlaywell, actually, chavo's gimme gimme gimme kicks the balls off from morris' version. but in the end, I think I'd go with henry. I feel morris really didn't find his place until circle jerks. although wasted was a classic already.
Who's the better Black Flag vocalist? Morris or Rollins??
EDIT - Or Cadena, if you like...
and this is the absolute, ultimate truth of course.
Originally posted by wormwoodOh, don't get me wrong, I don't think he should have been on it either. And I know what you mean, I'm 29 and started listening when I was a youngin' myself.
well then they could've interviewed me instead, and get some actual content. -the problem I have with phil being there is that he really wasn't there. same with moby, who also likes to make noise about his 'hc background'. not to put either of them down or anything, but when we're talking about rollins, morris, flanagan etc, we're not talking about guys lik ...[text shortened]... selmo parts are just a tiny fraction of the document, which was pretty nice all in all.