Originally posted by HandyAndyAll of what we refer to as time and the future flowed from Eternity Past (a beginning which wasn't a beginning, just the persons of the Trinity alone); then the angelic creation; and then creation of one each male and female human beings. Subsequently, revelation of all He desired both the angelic and human creation to know was made in accordance with His perfect timetable and plan. By the way, Rapture of Believers in Christ is the next linear event (at a time known only to Him); then Seven Years of Tribulation; then Christ's Millennial Reign; then the Great White Throne Judgement; then the total destruction of the earth marking the end of time; and then Eternity interrupted will resume. Please don't miss the crux issue, Andy: Our brief sojourn on planet is but prelude to the main show.
Before the Book of Genesis was published, how did God reveal the beginning and end of time to human creatures?
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31 Oct 11
Originally posted by Grampy BobbyDo you consider yourself a fundamentalist?
All of what we refer to as time and the future flowed from Eternity Past (a beginning which wasn't a beginning, just the persons of the Trinity alone); then the angelic creation; and then creation of one each male and female human beings. Subsequently, revelation of all He desired both the angelic and human creation to know was made in accordance with H ...[text shortened]... don't miss the crux issue, Andy: Our brief sojourn on planet is but prelude to the main show.
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Originally posted by HandyAndyNo, Andy... not an atheist, Fundy, Baptist or Roman Catholic, et al. Rejected all such man made labels as well as the crusader groups and denominations to which they've become attached long ago. Though not a member of any church, I've been nourished by the teaching ministry of pastor-teacher Robert B. Thieme of Houston, Texas, for the past four decades (free MP3CD site link is imbedded within my Red Hot Pawn Profile). I've simply placed my trust and confidence in the person and work of the Lord Jesus Christ. I am known to Him. My name is permanently written in the Lamb's Book of Life. There is tranquility and contentment within my immortal soul. What family and friends and the rest of a lost and dying world may think or say is their business entirely and totally inconsequential.
Do you consider yourself a fundamentalist?
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31 Oct 11
Originally posted by HandyAndyNot necessarily. It may be linear and infinite - you know, like a line... It doesn't have to be a line segment. Or it could be a half-line, terminating at one end but going on infinitely at the other. That, with the infinite in the future, is one of the reasonable interpretations of the evidence cosmologists have found - a big fizz-out.
To say in no uncertain terms that time is linear is to suggest that time had a starting point in the distant past and will come to an end sometime in the future.
Of course, saying that time is linear is rather a simplification... but it isn't wrong, per se.
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31 Oct 11
Originally posted by Grampy BobbyI asked if you are a fundamentalist because you seem to favor a literal interpretation of the Book of Genesis,
No, Andy... not an atheist, Fundy, Baptist or Roman Catholic, et al. Rejected all such man made labels as well as the crusader groups and denominations to which they've become attached long ago. Though not a member of any church, I've been nourished by the teaching ministry of pastor-teacher Robert B. Thieme of Houston, Texas, for the past four decades ...[text shortened]... ost and dying world may think or say is their business entirely and totally inconsequential.
e.g., the Garden of Eden, Adam and Eve, Noah's Ark, the parting of the Red Sea, and so forth. Am I wrong?
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31 Oct 11
Originally posted by sumydidThe Irish do it one week earlier to compensate for constipation due to excess consumption of cheese. 😕
I'm assuming this is about turning the clocks back.
It's going to be funny if what I looked up is correct. Trev is going to wake up an hour late tomorrow... depressed that he missed an hour of football matchup discussions. LOL! 😀
31 Oct 11
Originally posted by HandyAndyHandyAndy, I accept the verbal plenary inspiration of the Sixty Six OT and NT Books which comprise the Canon of Scripture, as well as their accuracy and literal interpretation in the original languages. Beyond that straightforward statement I'm at a loss to help you with any arbitrary labels. By the way, "fundamentalist" functions as a phrasing suffix, i.e., muslim, christian, constitutional, etc.
I asked if you are a fundamentalist because you seem to favor a literal interpretation of the Book of Genesis,
e.g., the Garden of Eden, Adam and Eve, Noah's Ark, the parting of the Red Sea, and so forth. Am I wrong?
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31 Oct 11
Originally posted by Grampy BobbyAccording to Genesis the Earth was created before the sun. I don't think you should be using the Bible as a 'scientific tool' GB.
Clearly taught in the OT Genesis account of creation, gap and restoration which
I readily accept as part of God's revelation to human creatures. Looks like this:
[b]ETERNITY PAST) -------------> [time, human history]------------> (ETERNITY FUTURE
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31 Oct 11
Originally posted by PhlabibitThroughout human history 'science' (what man is able to see, touch measure and codify ) has been running its sweaty laboratory arse off trying to catch up with the categorical absolute truth revealed in God's omniscient and, therefore, inerrant written word.
According to Genesis the Earth was created before the sun. I don't think you should be using the Bible as a 'scientific tool' GB.
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31 Oct 11
Originally posted by Grampy BobbyOkay, let's avoid using arbitrary labels.
HandyAndy, I accept the verbal plenary inspiration of the Sixty Six OT and NT Books which comprise the Canon of Scripture, as well as their accuracy and literal interpretation in the original languages. Beyond that straightforward statement I'm at a loss to help you with any arbitrary labels. By the way, "fundamentalist" functions as a phrasing suffix, i.e., muslim, christian, constitutional, etc.
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You mention "original languages." Do you read Hebrew or Aramaic, or do you rely on translations?
I hope I'm not annoying you with all these questions.
Originally posted by HandyAndyYou know why the number 40 shows up in the Bible? PM me if you'd like to know, I don't want to compromise GB's Faith with FACTS.
Okay, let's avoid using arbitrary labels.
You mention "original languages." Do you read Hebrew or Aramaic, or do you rely on translations?
I hope I'm not annoying you with all these questions.
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