18 Mar 08
Originally posted by Palynka"Labelling" ew scary word. Ever wonder what a psychologist does when they diagnose a patient? They label them. They give them a name. The name describes the condition to which the patients finds themself saddled with.
That's ridiculous. The fact that you assign labels on people based on simplistic concepts makes clear your intention: to set a separating line between yourself and others.
Your following posts clearly confirm this assertion. So, in your own definitions, you're as simple as they come.
Besides, I don't consider such labeling to even deserve the status of "idea" because it's simply a side product of lack of ideas and ignorance.
A label is short form. You state a "side product of a lack of ideas and ignorance." Guess what buddy, you just labelled it. Maybe not in-so-many words but you have labelled everything with your opinions. You have made judgements based on available information.
You are a labeller. You just wont' admit it because a labeller is a label and god knows it's not cool to label people in this day and age...we just expand on the label and provide negative or positive comments but steer clear of any labels....even though they're defacto labels.
Dress it up as much as you want. There is no way to discuss anything of any substance without describing them in terms that can be understood universally. Otherwise it's all subjective definitions that will only bring on confusion and misinterpretation.
18 Mar 08
Originally posted by uzlessI use Labello. 😳
"Labelling" ew scary word. Ever wonder what a psychologist does when they diagnose a patient? They label them. They give them a name. The name describes the condition to which the patients finds themself saddled with.
A label is short form. You state a "side product of a lack of ideas and ignorance." Guess what buddy, you just labelled it. Maybe no ...[text shortened]... it's all subjective definitions that will only bring on confusion and misinterpretation.
18 Mar 08
Originally posted by NordlysLet me get this straight...
So it's not even your own idea. That makes you look much better.
Besides, my "insult" was addressed at Palynka.
On one hand i get criticized for making simple categorizations, and then on the other hand i get criticized for not making it up myself?
😵
18 Mar 08
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Originally posted by PalynkaYou make a good point about dichotomous viewpoints and two-valued judgements... both of which tend to impose limits on perception. Let's
Regarding your comment I'm not focusing on the person of 'uzless'. That was your conclusion.
Nevertheless, my point stands regarding any so such labeling between "WEAK" and "STRONG" people.
drop black/white rigidity and agree that all human beings possess and reflect varying degrees of intelligence, relative maturity and strength.
Thanks for contributing an important wider lense to this otherwise unravelling conversation.
-gb
🙂
18 Mar 08
Originally posted by uzlessWell, I'd say copying simplistic ideas is worse than coming up with them yourself. At least in the latter case there would have been some thinking of your own involved. It would be different if you'd post a simplistic idea by someone else and then give your own thoughts and criticism of it.
Let me get this straight...
On one hand i get criticized for making simple categorizations, and then on the other hand i get criticized for not making it up myself?
😵
18 Mar 08
Originally posted by NordlysI said the same thing...MONTHS AGO!©
Well, I'd say copying simplistic ideas is worse than coming up with them yourself. At least in the latter case there would have been some thinking of your own involved. It would be different if you'd post a simplistic idea by someone else and then give your own thoughts and criticism of it.
18 Mar 08
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Originally posted by Grampy BobbyIt's great when you agree with me yet use phrasing to make the other side believe you are on their side. "Varying" being the key word of course.
You make a good point about dichotomous viewpoints and two-valued judgements... both of which tend to impose limits on perception. Let's
drop black/white rigidity and agree that all human beings possess and reflect varying degrees of intelligence, relative maturity and strength.
Thanks for contributing an important wider lense to this otherwise unravelling conversation.
-gb
🙂
You should be a manager.
18 Mar 08
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Originally posted by uzlessAn honest concession to a good point. In my original emphasis on behavior as opposed to intelligence, I inadvertently lapsed into the
It's great when you agree with me yet use phrasing to make the other side believe you are on their side. "Varying" being the key word of course.
You should be a manager.
use of labels. Became self critical and grateful for the bracing. That's all. Nothing whatsoever to do with 'phrasing' or taking 'sides'. When we
get to know each other a little better, believe you'll come to realize that yours truly is far more critical of himself than of other people.
-Bobby
Edit; Thanks, Palynka.
18 Mar 08
Originally posted by uzlessI already answered that. Most of my conversations fall into most of the categories.
Let's make it simple.
What category do you tend to discuss more often with your friends.
People, events, or ideas?
(Yes, I know, "most of the categories" doesn't make much sense because there are only three, but it sounded nice. Most of them probably fall into all the categories.)
18 Mar 08
Originally posted by Grampy BobbySay all the right things. Keep the truth to oneself. Let others discover their own fallability.
An honest concession to a good point. In my original emphasis on behavior as opposed to intelligence, I inadvertently lapsed into the
use of labels. Became self critical and grateful for the bracing. That's all. Nothing whatsoever to do with 'phrasing' or taking 'sides'. When we
get to know each other a little better, believe you'll come to realiz ...[text shortened]... far more critical of himself than of other people.
-Bobby
Edit; Thanks, Palynka.
That's No fun! Some never discover it! One who's mistakes are not pointed out cannot learn from them. You are either a teacher or an observer. The world has enough observers.
Oops, labels again. Ok..You are either one who teaches, or one who does not teach.