"Internet Trolls..."

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
I asked if I could have a chess blog but received no answer so i guess that I was deemed unworthy, which is a great pity for I don't think it could be any less than the blogs that we have at present.

I would support your request. I've seen some of your other stuff elsewhere and it appears well presented.

Originally posted by Grampy Bobby (Page 37)
@Crowley: "Sarchasm
1. (n.)
The gulf between the author of sarcastic wit and the person who doesn't get it.
Go to any of the forums to see this phenomenon in action.

Dealing With Trolls:
Rule #1 - Don't feed the troll.
Rule #2 - Seriously, just don't feed the troll. I know it's difficult.
Rule #3 - See Rules #1 and #2.

http://www.webroot.com/us/en/home/resources/tips/pc-security/you-cant-win-an-argument-with-a-troll"

You can’t win an argument with a troll

"There are trolls online. Not the fairytale kind that sits under bridges: we’re talking about the mean, nasty individuals who use online anonymity to be cruel, spread their own brand of hate, destroy reputations and products, and generally try to upset and crush as many people and companies as they possibly can.

Trolls agitate to start fights between friends or strangers; they torment those struggling with illnesses or with the loss of a loved one, people unsure of their identity or their looks, or any other weakness a troll can find. They disrupt forums with off-topic comments, brag nonstop about themselves, ridicule the thoughts of others or insert controversial comments to disrupt conversations.

Trolls spread lies, deceive and cause damage, and they enjoy every minute they can make someone else miserable. They may be obnoxious teens, but more often than not they’re seemingly “normal” adults who use internet anonymity to shed their veneer of decency and show their ugly selves. Trolls are basically cyberbullies on steroids – cowards afraid to show their face but nastier and more dedicated than garden-variety bullies. They are often fairly tech savvy, willing to dig up a comment or information from your past to distort, thereby “justifying” their actions.

If you’ve spent any time online, you’ve probably run across trolls even if you didn’t know the term. You may have tried to reason with them, be nice to them or virtually shout back at them. Don’t bother. You’re more likely to win an argument with a tree than you are with a troll.

What trolls need

In order to attack others, trolls need a victim pool and a public forum of some kind, and they usually want an audience.

This means trolls gravitate to anywhere online users interact - like blog sites, social networks, multiplayer games, discussion forums, hobby sites and so on. They are found on sites that primarily target adults like news sites, company sites and forums, and they thrive on sites with lots of kids and teens who may be particularly vulnerable to attack - unless there is a strong moderator that can control their behavior or kick them off a site.

Tackling trolls

While you can’t control whether you will become a troll’s target, you can decide if you will make yourself a troll’s victim. Knowing that the troll’s goal is to embarrass, humiliate, ridicule, demean and shame you, you have a choice about how you are going to react.

You can either be devastated, angry, or whatever emotion they want you to feel, or you can look at the attack for what it is – a mean person being mean. It isn’t personal if you refuse to take it personally. Recognize that the troll is the one with the problem. If the attack is directed at you exclusively, via email or as a comment on your site, document it so you can report the abuse, then delete and forget it.

If the attack is directed at you on a public site, understand that the troll’s “audience” – other participants in the conversation such as forum members, social network contacts or other gamers – can see the troll’s behavior as the vicious attack it is. We all learned at an early age how to identify mean, nasty people.

Call out their behavior. Many people recommend you simply ignore trolls and don’t respond in any way, but this gives the trolls even more power as it gives them the power to silence you. Instead, ignore the troll but address the problem with the “audience” in a matter of fact way. Do NOT respond in a manner that stoops to the troll’s level or you risk two outcomes: 1) Feeding the troll and engaging in an unwinnable argument that will escalate, or 2) having the “audience” see you as another irritant/troll rather than as the balanced, decent and aggrieved party.

Frame your comment to the group along the lines of “Wow. Looks like we’ve got a troll trying to attack people on this site, derail meaningful dialog and control our conversation. I suggest that this forum doesn’t give them that power by ignoring their unproductive comments and continuing our discussion, or even take a moment to create a guideline for how we want to deal with trolls.”

Understand that where there’s one troll, there may be many more waiting to pounce once the first troll has started. All too frequently, you see cases where others pile on with additional nasty comments. This just means there may be more than one troll that needs ignoring.

Alert the site moderator if there is one, but even on unmediated sites there is usually a “report abuse” feature. Sometimes this is found directly on the discussion page, other times – like with Facebook – you first go to the help center using the help link at the bottom of the page, then select “report abuse,” and file a bullying report.

Take time for self-care

It is fairly easy to understand that the troll is the person with the problem, but that doesn’t mean it’s easy to let vicious comments roll off if your “Teflon” layer isn’t thick enough. Even journalists, politicians and movie stars who have had years in the media spotlight where troll-attacks are everyday events sometimes feel the sting of a particularly nasty interaction.

So take time for self-care and reach out in ways that the troll cannot influence the people who love and support you. People who will tell you – repeatedly if needed – that the comments aren’t true, that you’re wonderful and that the troll is just a troll, not a reflection of you." http://www.webroot.com/us/en/home/resources/tips/pc-security/you-cant-win-an-argument-with-a-troll

Originally posted by Grampy Bobby
[b]You can’t win an argument with a troll

"There are trolls online. Not the fairytale kind that sits under bridges: we’re talking about the mean, nasty individuals who use online anonymity to be cruel, spread their own brand of hate, destroy reputations and products, and generally try to upset and crush as many people and companies as they ...[text shortened]... tp://www.webroot.com/us/en/home/resources/tips/pc-security/you-cant-win-an-argument-with-a-troll[/b]

Grampy Bobby, posters disagreeing with you, calling you out for your poor forum etiquette or simply being unimpressed by you, is not trolling.

Originally posted by divegeester
Grampy Bobby, posters disagreeing with you, calling you out for your poor forum etiquette or simply being unimpressed by you, is not trolling.

@divegeester:
"Sometimes, I go out by myself and I look across the water and I think of all the things that you're doing and in my head I paint a picture."
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Now and then yours truly does the same....

Originally posted by Grampy Bobby
@divegeester:
"Sometimes, I go out by myself and I look across the water and I think of all the things that you're doing and in my head I paint a picture."
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Now and then yours truly does the same....

Grampy Bobby, posters disagreeing with you, calling you out for your poor forum etiquette or simply being unimpressed by you, is not trolling.

Originally posted by divegeester
Grampy Bobby, posters disagreeing with you, calling you out for your poor forum etiquette or simply being unimpressed by you, is not trolling.

“Keep the personal, personal and do not be guilty of spreading bad feelings.” ~John Patrick Hickey (Oops! Did I Really Post That)
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We agree: "forum etiquette" certainly does matter; however, online trolls are a fact of life on the internet which includes Red Hot Pawn.

Originally posted by Grampy Bobby
We agree: "forum etiquette" certainly does matter; however, online trolls are a fact of life on the internet which includes Red Hot Pawn.

Which active site member(s) should receive a forum ban and for how long, in your opinion?

Originally posted by Grampy Bobby
We agree: "forum etiquette" certainly does matter; however, online trolls are a fact of life on the internet which includes Red Hot Pawn.

What do we agree on; that posters disagreeing with you, calling you out for your poor forum etiquette or simply being unimpressed by you, is not trolling...?

Originally posted by divegeester
What do we agree on; that posters disagreeing with you, calling you out for your poor forum etiquette or simply being unimpressed by you, is not trolling...?

We agree that, "forum etiquette" certainly does matter; however, online trolls are a fact of life on the internet which includes Red Hot Pawn." All posters on these public forums [today, Saturday, October 3, 2015, until I'm no longer able to access the internet] have the privilege accorded to them by site terms of service and forum posting guidelines stated by Russ to agree or disagree with me until the cows come home to their heart's content.

Originally posted by FMF
Which active site member(s) should receive a forum ban and for how long, in your opinion?

Originally posted by FMF (Page 37)
I consider myself saluted. Thanks. And yet this dreary assortment of pompous windbags that I seem to rub up the wrong way have nothing to fear from me when Russ makes me a moderator because most of their tedious unoriginal repetitive twaddle is not against the TOS. 😀
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Apparently that decision will soon be yours to make.

Originally posted by Grampy Bobby
We agree that, "forum etiquette" certainly does matter; however, online trolls are a fact of life on the internet which includes Red Hot Pawn." All posters on these public forums [today, Saturday, October 3, 2015, until I'm no longer able to access the internet] have the privilege accorded to them by site terms of service and forum posting guidelines stated by Russ to agree or disagree with me until the cows come home to their heart's content.

Do you think there regular internet trolls here at rhp?

Originally posted by divegeester
Do you think there regular internet trolls here at rhp?

".. online trolls are a fact of life on the internet which includes Red Hot Pawn."
Sure I do; just as over the years other site members have had their "Accounts Suspended".
Crux reason why is that they arrogantly ignored applicable RHP Terms of Service:

Originally posted by Grampy Bobby
".. online trolls are a fact of life on the internet which includes Red Hot Pawn."
Sure I do; just as over the years other site members have had their "Accounts Suspended".
Crux reason why is that they arrogantly ignored applicable RHP Terms of Service:

Who would you class as these RHP trolls?

Originally posted by divegeester
Who would you class as these RHP trolls?

Here and elsewhere, trolls come and trolls go; in recent memory,
@Frank-Burns would I suppose be one. "Last moved 553 days 6 hours and 18 minutes ago."
"Who would you class as these RHP trolls?"

Originally posted by Grampy Bobby
Here and elsewhere, trolls come and trolls go; in recent memory,
@Frank-Burns would I suppose be one. "Last moved 553 days 6 hours and 18 minutes ago."
"Who would you class as these RHP trolls?"

Very courageous of you to call out someone no longer here.