Originally posted by Raven69sorry...name the studies and their credits. The internet is so full of shams that there are people duped daily. You seriously believe that online relationships are more successful? I Got some lakefront property in the Sahara desert to sell you at a great price and I can show it to you online first....
Where is it written you have to be face-to-face to get to know someone well...? Studies show that if you meet someone online first, you are more likely to like them in real life and have a better relationship.
Originally posted by shortcircuitI learned that in my psychology class.
sorry...name the studies and their credits. The internet is so full of shams that there are people duped daily. You seriously believe that online relationships are more successful? I Got some lakefront property in the Sahara desert to sell you at a great price and I can show it to you online first....
And what does selling property have to do anything...?
Originally posted by Raven69I think the results must be skewed because there are way to many perverts making contact on the internet as well as con artists scamming everything from love to money. Also, I am sure you have seen the cartoons about what people say they look like versus what they really look like. Don't get me wrong, I do believe that there are many who do get together after first meeting on line, but I do not believe they can be in the majority by a long stretch of the imagination. They may be taking into account computer dating services and the like to spruce up their numbers, but I still doubt it is enough to call it a majority.
I learned that in my psychology class.
Selling the property is an analogy to the fact that you have been duped into believing something that isn't true.
Originally posted by shortcircuitI meant majority as in the people who meet online first, then meet in real life afterwards tend to like each other more than the people who just meet in real life. This study excludes people who don't meet in real life afterwards. So I do not mean all online relationships tend to be better that real life ones. I, of course, know there are a lot of perverts online who are not who they say they are.
I think the results must be skewed because there are way to many perverts making contact on the internet as well as con artists scamming everything from love to money. Also, I am sure you have seen the cartoons about what people say they look like versus what they really look like. Don't get me wrong, I do believe that there are many who do get together ...[text shortened]... y is an analogy to the fact that you have been duped into believing something that isn't true.
On side note, I think most of said perverts are in chat rooms, I doubt there are too many of them on a chess forum...
Originally posted by Raven69I am not so sure....I think there are several pervs on this site. Would all of the perverts please speak up now?
I meant majority as in the people who meet online first, then meet in real life afterwards tend to like each other more than the people who just meet in real life. This study excludes people who don't meet in real life afterwards. So I do not mean all online relationships tend to be better that real life ones. I, of course, know there are a lot of perverts o ...[text shortened]... most of said perverts are in chat rooms, I doubt there are too many of them on a chess forum...
"In several experiments, randomly formed pairs of opposite-sex college students who did not know each other were assigned to participate in get-acquainted meetings, either online or in face-to-face encounters. The most striking general result is that those who had met on-line reported more liking of each other than who had met face-to-face (Bargh & McKenna, 2004). In one such experiment, this first meeting was followed by a second meeting, in which all pairs met face-to-face (McKenna and others, 2002). As you can see in Figure 13.4, the degree of liking between those who first met on the Internet increased even more face-to-face meeting, while the lesser degree of liking between those who first met face-to-face was not affected by the second meeting.
How can such results be explained? Researches have found that get-acquainted meeting over the Internet are more intimate, more revealing of what each person considers to be his or her “true self,” than are such meetings conducted face-to-face (Bargh & McKenna, 2002; Bargh & others, 2002). Apparently, the relative anonymity of the Internet, along with the lack of visual and auditory contact, reduces social anxiety and frees people to reveal more about themselves than they would if they met face-to-face. Also, without knowledge of the physical features of the person, the biasing effects of attractiveness, or lack thereof, are absent. Communication is not shut down by early negative judgments or anxieties based on physical features. When and if the two partners meet, they already know a good deal about each other and may feel something of an emotional bond, which may lead them to see each other as more attractive than they would have if they were complete strangers." (473-474)
The above is from Psychology – Fifth Edition by Peter Gray.
Originally posted by Raven69did you read the first sentence? It was a controlled experiment with college students. How can you consider this to be anywhere close to representative of a worldwide body like the internet? I could agree that some people might be more open online than if in person because of insecurities, nerves, or whatever. But it is nowhere close to a statement of fact, and it is skewed, as I said earlier. I don't mean to shake your faith in what the textbooks say, but I have found MANY erros in textbooks through the years, and one with speculative topic matter is that much easier to disprove.
"In several experiments, randomly formed pairs of opposite-sex college students who did not know each other were assigned to participate in get-acquainted meetings, either online or in face-to-face encounters. The most striking general result is that those who had met on-line reported more liking of each other than who had met face-to-face (Bargh & McKenna, ...[text shortened]... te strangers." (473-474)
The above is from Psychology – Fifth Edition by Peter Gray.
Originally posted by shortcircuit"did you read the first sentence?"
did you read the first sentence? It was a controlled experiment with college students. How can you consider this to be anywhere close to representative of a worldwide body like the internet? I could agree that some people might be more open online than if in person because of insecurities, nerves, or whatever. But it is nowhere close to a statement of f ...[text shortened]... books through the years, and one with speculative topic matter is that much easier to disprove.
No, when I read text books I only ever read every second sentence...😞
"It was a controlled experiment with college students."
So? 'Tis impossible to study every single person that uses the internet so such experiments are necessary. Scientists have always done controlled experiments that they later relate to the real world. That is where most of the knowledge on psychology comes from. Of course it won't relate to everyone, there will always be some people who fall out of the norm....but most information that was gathered from such experiments have so far been pretty accurate and allowed us to understand the complexities of the human brain better.
Originally posted by Raven69What you are suggesting, then, is that the following have little baring on how a relationship will flourish:
I meant majority as in the people who meet online first, then meet in real life afterwards tend to like each other more than the people who just meet in real life. This study excludes people who don't meet in real life afterwards. So I do not mean all online relationships tend to be better that real life ones. I, of course, know there are a lot of perverts o ...[text shortened]... most of said perverts are in chat rooms, I doubt there are too many of them on a chess forum...
- Smell
- Looks
- Speed of wit
I find it highly dubious. Unless people who meet on internet are themselves lacking 1 to 3 of these factors. In which case, the study means they give themselves more easily, because the other person is also lacking the same factors?
Huh?
What are you on about?
