22 Jun 07
The post that was quoted here has been removedWhy is someone flying the Irish flag on a chess website a touchy subject?
its not. saying you're from somewhere (in this case ireland) and admitting you don't keep up to date with whats going on in that country (in this case not having heard about the riots in dublin) but still having the nerve to comment about it.......
I'd be curious to hear why you'd react about the flag rather than his asinine comments about rioting.
sometimes riots are necessary, where they here maybe not, i wasn't their. mow many riots have there been in the north because of something like this? to many? not enough? i want a united ireland, in this ireland should we allow unionist and nationalist marches to continue as they do now or should we just ban them completely? to say 'good on the rioters' yeah its insensitive and wrong, its also wrong to disrupt o'connell street and an already congested dublin for a march that the majority of irish people (north and south) didn't want.
22 Jun 07
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Originally posted by eamon oYour lack of intelligence is nearly exceeded by your lack of knowledge of the situation. The love Ulster parade was a peaceful march, agreed to by Both governments, the Garda, and was in no way populated by "Thugs"....That is unless you are one of those brainless halfwits who think that anyone who is a Protestant falls in to that catagory.
living in london, i never even heard about it, good on the rioters.
amazed that "loyalist" troublemakers had the nerve to step across the border and how naive of irish politicians and police to even contemplate allowing such a troublemaking march.
The Love Ulster parade was a march by Victims of republican violence, and was peaceful. It was, might i add, entirely ill thought out, and mishandled by the Garda. In my humble opinion, it was a well devised yardstick to be used by the Loyalist politicians in the north, pre re-entry into stormont. They were actually allowed to march outside the dail (government buildings) before the buses were sent back up north, and the man managed rioters decended into chaos before they reached Dail eirean (sorry for the possible mis-spelling).
The rioters, as rags said, were mainly skangers from the inner city, boltstered by a small contingent from the north. A mob made up of idiots, like it was, was too hard to control by the mobile phone weilding "stewards", and the political statement quickly descended into looting, and violence towards innocents.
I am amased that you would even have the nerve to post about something that you know nothing about, and i can only guess that your bedroom is painted green and white, you have a shamrock tattooed to your forehead, and you think that the murdering of all protestants is a pretty neato thing....think much ?
22 Jun 07
The post that was quoted here has been removedwho said the 'republican movement' had admitted defeat? they tried violence to push the british out of n. ireland and it failed why not go the political route? who would have imagined 10 years ago that mc'guinness and paisley would be deputy and first minsters in n.i? imo we're closer to a united ireland now than we were ever before.
22 Jun 07
Originally posted by trevor33I think being given half a government thay were not elected into by majority, is a victory in itself, and proof that their decisions worked.
who said the 'republican movement' had admitted defeat? they tried violence to push the british out of n. ireland and it failed why not go the political route? who would have imagined 10 years ago that mc'guinness and paisley would be deputy and first minsters in n.i? imo we're closer to a united ireland now than we were ever before.
22 Jun 07
Originally posted by huckleberryhoundHEY! I resent that.
That is unless you are one of those brainless halfwits who think that anyone who is a Protestant falls in to that catagory.
I think that all protestants fall into that catagory.
Okay, so I think all catholics, jews, hindus and moslims do to, but that's besides the point!
22 Jun 07
Originally posted by huckleberryhoundCan you elaborate on your comments? Eamon admits he didn't know about that particular event and from that you have concluded he is " dumb and ill informed" and "the kind of person who gives those who fly the flag a bad name"!!! Do you know him or something?
I think it has more to do with the fact that he has no idea what he is talking about, and isthe sort of person whogives those who fly the flag with pride a bad name.
He is dumb, and ill-informed at best.
These are public forums and anyone can comment on anything whether it's misinformed, dumb etc. God only knows you do.
22 Jun 07
The post that was quoted here has been removeddestroying all weapons
- Not to mention British de-militarisation in the North of Ireland which means when I look at my living-room window I no longer see a British army base. As well as the release of political prisoners etc.
the Irish Government abandoning all territorial claims to the six counties
- Articles 2 and 3 only increased Unionist intransigence to any deal-making with Republicans and Nationalists. The recognition of the consent principle does mean that a Republican disavows the ultimate goal of a united Ireland. It merely, enshrines in law, the fact that a united Ireland at this moment in time would be logistically impossible given the large number of Unionists and Loyalists in the north of Ireland who are unwilling to enter in to a united Ireland. Articles 2 and 3 were strictly 'pie in the sky' stuff that have acted for too long as a barrier to progress.
the acceptance of a Northern Irish police service
The removal of all royal insignia (surely a Republican goal!), enforcement of positive discrimination and an increased role for Nationalists and Republicans in overseeing how the police conduct themselves. Let's not forget also the important contribution of Nuala O'Loan as Police Ombudsman.
the splintering of republican groups into drug gangs
This point is somewhat laboured, it is true that some drug gangs claim to be of Republican heritage but for them to do so is very risky. Recently the INLA admitted they killed Brian McGlynn because he was using the INLA's name for drug-dealing purposes. This killing followed a spate of warnings by paramilitaries that dealing drugs whilst claiming to be a member of a paramilitary group would be dealt with most severely.
seeing Adams and McGuinness take seats in a British assembly was a defeat for Irish republicanism
The N.I. assembly is a far cry from the Gerrymandering which took place under Stormount. Sinn Fein are in a real position to influence events in Northern Ireland which also call for strengthening the ties with the South of Ireland and cross-border bodies. Already the police forces have been co-operating, as well as recruiting for each other.
To be a Republican can mean popping on your rose-tinted spectacles and fighting the good fight till not a man (or woman or child for that matter) is left standing or it can mean growing up, realising you are not going to get it all your own way, respecting the rights of others while standing up for the principles you hold dear. I assume you don't live in 'the North' since you would know that people here, on both sides, have given up more in blood than the paltry trivialities that you have stated here.
22 Jun 07
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Originally posted by kinkyafrothanks kinkyafro. first some jeck calling himself huckleberry hound pastes a link and invites comments. so i check it out and comment. then i get this double-act on my case, then this twit huckleberry joins in. i havent had time to read all of the nonsense, i suspect they are some sort of "loyalists". i stand by original comments, it is naivety and foolish "do-gooders" that bring about the sort of stupid violence that was described in the article.
Can you elaborate on your comments? Eamon admits he didn't know about that particular event and from that you have concluded he is " dumb and ill informed" and "the kind of person who gives those who fly the flag a bad name"!!! Do you know him or something?
These are public forums and anyone can comment on anything whether it's misinformed, dumb etc. God only knows you do.
good night ive got a life to get on with.