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Originally posted by robbie carrobie
At last a confession, so you think that homosexuality is also obscene and unnatural, is that the case?
Why does it say that in the Gospel?

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Originally posted by divegeester
Why does it say that in the Gospel?
I just provided the verse Romans 1:26, did you not read it? Now we shall ask you do you think that all Christians who adhere to the Bibles standards on homosexuality are a pernicious cult?

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Originally posted by robbie carrobie
I just provided the verse Romans 1:26, did you not read it? Now we shall ask you do you think that all Christians who adhere to the Bibles standards on homosexuality are a pernicious cult?
Which translation did you quote from?

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Originally posted by divegeester
Which translation did you quote from?
New world translation of the Holy scriptures, feel free to check any other translations and again, do you think that all Christians who adhere to the Bibles standards on homosexuality are a pernicious cult?

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Originally posted by robbie carrobie
New world translation of the Holy scriptures, feel free to check any other translations and again, do you think that all Christians who adhere to the Bibles standards on homosexuality are a pernicious cult?
I don't see the word "obscene" in the translation I'm using.

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Originally posted by divegeester
Which translation did you quote from?
here is the NIV,

Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural sexual relations for unnatural ones. In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed shameful acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their error.

Here it is even stronger it terms it shameful and unnatural.

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Originally posted by divegeester
I don't see the word "obscene" in the translation I'm using.
well what word do you see?

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Originally posted by robbie carrobie
New world translation of the Holy scriptures, feel free to check any other translations and again, do you think that all Christians who adhere to the Bibles standards on homosexuality are a pernicious cult?
The New World Translation is the Jehovah's Witness own translation, isn't it?

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Originally posted by divegeester
I don't see the word "obscene" in the translation I'm using.
here is the King James version,

For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature: And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.

It terms it vile affections and unseemly

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Originally posted by robbie carrobie
well what word do you see?
I don't see "obsene". The same way I don't see Jesus being presented as God in your translation. I'd say that was a pretty big miss to be perfectly honest.

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Originally posted by divegeester
The New World Translation is the Jehovah's Witness own translation, isn't it?
Yes it is, but you are not escaping that easily. Tell us lest you have forgotten, do you think that all organizations who adhere to the Bibles teaching on homosexuality are a pernicious cult?

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Originally posted by GHOST HUNTER
I'm anti-gay. Proud of it.
Do you believe, like robbie does, that homosexuality is detestable, an abomination, abhorrent, and is caused by demon possession?

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Originally posted by divegeester
I don't see "obsene". The same way I don't see Jesus being presented as God in your translation. I'd say that was a pretty big miss to be perfectly honest.
You think that shameful, vile affections , unseemly are better then fine, tell us what word your translation uses? You were presented with two other translations, shall we use those instead? fine do you think that the Bibles teaching on homosexuality is vile and unnatural or shameful and unnatural NIV version- King James version.

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Originally posted by divegeester
I don't see "obsene". The same way I don't see Jesus being presented as God in your translation. I'd say that was a pretty big miss to be perfectly honest.
Ibnternational standard version reads,

For this reason, God delivered them to degrading passions as their females exchanged their natural sexual function for one that is unnatural. In the same way, their males also abandoned their natural sexual function toward females and burned with lust toward one another. Males committed indecent acts with males, and received within themselves the appropriate penalty for their perversion.

Here it goes even further, gulp, degrading passions, unnatural, indecent and perverse.

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