Memo

Originally posted by Startreader
And again, one more time, why do you continually have a go at Grampy Bobby? What's the matter with you?

We should treat others as we would be happy to be treated by them. I have no issue with you continually "having a go" at me.

Originally posted by Startreader
Looks to me more like the person who has been getting a lot of criticism lately is yourself. Are you unable to stand outside yourself and see how you appear to other people.

Of course I can ~ perhaps even more so than you can. I confront people like Grampy Bobby and robbie carrobie for their forum behaviour, just as you are confronting me because you think there is something wrong with mine.

Originally posted by Grampy Bobby
My pleasure and thank you as well.

Note: By the way, my new floral image avatar represents a tribute to the Ladies of Red Hot Pawn beginning with @Mathurine..

I'd noticed your new floral image and had meant to comment but got diverted. It's really nice. Is it a viola?

Originally posted by FMF
Of course I can ~ perhaps even more so than you can. I confront people like Grampy Bobby and robbie carrobie for their forum behaviour, just as you are confronting me because you think there is something wrong with mine.

You confront people with nothing but fabricated values, all one has to do is ask you for evidence of your claims and you flounder around. I am unashamed of my forum behaviour and delight in debating subjects objectively. You on the other hand seem incapable of divorcing the personality from the arguments that they make because its intellectually easier. I suspect this inability to be objective is why you are such a poor chess player, for chess above all is a game which requires objectivity.

Originally posted by Startreader
I'd noticed your new floral image and had meant to comment but got diverted. It's really nice. Is it a viola?

Yes, my online friend,
and it's a tribute to you and the other Ladies of Red Hot Pawn who have exemplified
the selfsame intelligence and sense of civility over the years....

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
You confront people with nothing but fabricated values, all one has to do is ask you for evidence of your claims and you flounder around. I am unashamed of my forum behaviour and delight in debating subjects objectively. You on the other hand seem incapable of divorcing the personality from the arguments that they make because its intellectually ea ...[text shortened]... why you are such a poor chess player, for chess above all is a game which requires objectivity.

Well said...

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
You confront people with nothing but fabricated values, all one has to do is ask you for evidence of your claims and you flounder around. I am unashamed of my forum behaviour and delight in debating subjects objectively. You on the other hand seem incapable of divorcing the personality from the arguments that they make because its intellectually ea ...[text shortened]... why you are such a poor chess player, for chess above all is a game which requires objectivity.

No one here among the regular posters reduces discussions to streams of repetitious personal insults and deflecting ad hominems in the way - or as much as - you do. When you attempt to apply this style/persona ~ along with your abuse-hurling "comedy" routines ~ to more serious topics like rape and child abuse, I will continue to confront you in the future ~ and no doubt you will continue to respond by lashing out in your trademark fashion. 😉

Originally posted by FMF
No one here among the regular posters reduces discussions to streams of repetitious personal insults and deflecting ad hominems in the way - or as much as - you do. When you attempt to apply this style/persona ~ along with your abuse-hurling "comedy" routines ~ to more serious topics like rape and child abuse, I will continue to confront you in the future ~ and no doubt you will continue to respond by lashing out in your trademark fashion. 😉

Wrong.

I see just two people posting the insults you describe: yourself and your sidekick.

It seems you may be living in a fantasy bubble of your own creation. Sad, really.

Originally posted by Startreader
Wrong.

I see just two people posting the insults you describe: yourself and your sidekick.

It seems you may be living in a fantasy bubble of your own creation. Sad, really.

If this is indeed your view, then you are right to air it, and this is probably a good thread to air it on.

Originally posted by Startreader
Wrong.

I see just two people posting the insults you describe: yourself and your sidekick.

It seems you may be living in a fantasy bubble of your own creation. Sad, really.

"Sad:" to be sure.

Originally posted by Grampy Bobby
"Sad:" to be sure.

Startreader seems to think robbie doesn't insult people but that I do. Is that also your view?

Originally posted by Grampy Bobby
“Who knows himself a braggart, let him fear this, for it will come to pass that every braggart shall be found an ass.”
―William Shakespeare, The Complete Works

You post the terms of of use this forum almost everyday, and yet you breach them yourself almost everyday. Because of your behaviour I have had to take steps to get information about a dying family friend removed from the various part of this site so you cannot use it to troll me. The forum moderator was very considerate and helpful in this matter and I made a specific request that you were not given a ban.

Originally posted by Great Big Stees
I, for one, am not privy to the goings on and really don't want to be but Is the GF really a place to discuss it or would it have been better served, when it occurred at the beginning with feedback to Russ? This is a genuine question. I know coming from me, who tends to make light of everything, may seem disingenuous but I am being serious.

I entered that thread quite late on and found that there were at least 6 lengthy posts made by Grampy Bobby about a dying friend of our family with links to old posts where I had talked about him and about which I had previously requested several times of GB that he did not mention in public.

I have had to ask the site administration to go and remove all references to it to stop Grampy Bobby using a dying friend to troll me. His cronies "let it pass" as suzianne recently said of his disgusting comments about people committing suicide.
I and others will not let it pass, and why should we.

You are good man Stees but in your desire to not be involved and because you are friendly with him, you sit by and watch Grampy Bobby behave like this and you say nothing, so I'm afraid you have abdicated the right of posthumous redress.

Originally posted by divegeester
You are good man Stees but in your desire to not be involved and because you are friendly with him, you sit by and watch Grampy Bobby behave like this and you say nothing, so I'm afraid you have abdicated the right of posthumous redress.

First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Socialist.

Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Trade Unionist.

Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Jew.

Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.

Pastor Martin Niemöller

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
You confront people with nothing but fabricated values, all one has to do is ask you for evidence of your claims and you flounder around. I am unashamed of my forum behaviour and delight in debating subjects objectively. You on the other hand seem incapable of divorcing the personality from the arguments that they make because its intellectually ea ...[text shortened]... why you are such a poor chess player, for chess above all is a game which requires objectivity.

Using a person's chess rating as a means to discredit them and their argument is the most pathetic ad hominem you ever come out with.