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Originally posted by robbie carrobie
opinions without substantiation are meaningless.
Can you substantiate that?

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Originally posted by Ghost of a Duke
Can you substantiate that?
Yes, yes I can. If you hold an opinion that has no corroborating evidence its meaningless to anyone but you. For example I could say, 'I Robbie Carrobie am awesome', but if there was no testimony i.e no corroboration to my awesomeness (thankfully there is) it would have little meaning. However if there was testimony to my awesomeness (which there is) then the opinion is substantiated through the scientific method.

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Originally posted by Grampy Bobby
On a serious note, I would like to propose a long overdue truce with each of the intended recipients of this invitation. Please reply with a simply "Yes" if you've accepted this invitation or a "No" if you've decided to decline this invitation without disclosing the personal reasons for your decision. My thanks in advance to those of you who decide to become an online Friend. ~Bob
I think "treat others as you wanted to be treated by them" ~ or words to that effect ~ is a better consensus to govern our interactions.

I also think people being forthright and honest is healthier than thinly disguised 'agreements' intended to curb people's candour or inconvenient opinions.

Furthermore, I think it's right and proper for people to stand up to hypocrites and passive aggressive bullies in a public forum, in the same way as some of you think it is right and proper to stand up to me for the reasons they feel they have and if they feel those reasons are justified.

You are behaving in pretty much the same way so far in 2016 as you did in 2015. Conditions that might be comparable to a "truce" will naturally occur when people no longer feel the need to stand up to you and call you out.

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Originally posted by FMF
I think "treat others as you wanted to be treated by them" ~ or words to that effect ~ is a better consensus to govern our interactions.

I also think people being forthright and honest is healthier than thinly disguised 'agreements' intended to curb people's candour or inconvenient opinions.

Furthermore, I think it's right and proper for people to stand ...[text shortened]... e" will naturally occur when people no longer feel the need to stand up to you and call you out.
Can you explain why I have never found GB to be in your words, 'passive aggressive', 'hypocritical', or 'dishonest'?

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Originally posted by robbie carrobie
can you explain why i have never found GB to be in your words, 'passive aggressive', 'hypocritical', or 'dishonest'?
No. I have explained why I do. It's not for me to explain why you say you don't. What a daft question.

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Originally posted by robbie carrobie
Can you explain why I have never found GB to be in your words, 'passive aggressive', 'hypocritical', or 'dishonest'?
In my own words? In what context or in which post are you saying I used the word "dishonest"? In the post you were replying to, I said that it is an imperative for me to be forthright and honest, I didn't say he was "dishonest".

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Originally posted by FMF
No. I have explained why I do. It's not for me to explain what you say you don't. What a daft question.
So you cannot explain why I have not found GB to be in your words, 'passive aggressive', ' dishonest', or anything else that you have termed him. So evidently these are subjective values that you are expressing that have little meaning beyond what you yourself imbue them with. I see, how interesting.

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Originally posted by robbie carrobie
opinions without substantiation are meaningless.
Perhaps in a court of law this is true.

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Originally posted by robbie carrobie
So you cannot explain why I have not found GB to be in your words, 'passive aggressive', ' dishonest', or anything else that you have termed him. So evidently these are subjective values that you are expressing that have little meaning beyond what you yourself imbue them with. I see, how interesting.
Was the word "dishonest" in the post of mine you were replying to?

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Originally posted by FMF
In my own words? In what context or in which post are you saying I used the word "dishonest"? In the post you were replying to, I said that it is an imperative for me to be forthright and honest, I didn't say he was "dishonest".
Yes your term 'thinly disguised' carries with it the insinuation of dishonesty by concealing something, like an intention. I thought it was obvious, apparently not obvious enough.

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Originally posted by FMF
Was the word "dishonest" in the post of mine you were replying to?
Please see the post above this and try to keep a grip on your knickers.

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Originally posted by robbie carrobie
So you cannot explain why I have not found GB to be in your words, 'passive aggressive', ' dishonest', or anything else that you have termed him. So evidently these are subjective values that you are expressing that have little meaning beyond what you yourself imbue them with. I see, how interesting.
You saying that you have not found his behaviour "passive aggressive" is a subjective comment on your part. If you really believe that opinions that people express have little meaning beyond what they themselves imbue them with, then the same must surely apply to all the opinions you express too.

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Originally posted by robbie carrobie
Yes your term 'thinly disguised' carries with it the insinuation of dishonesty by concealing something, like an intention. I thought it was obvious, apparently not obvious enough.
"Thinly disguised" is a figure of speech. It is not synonymous with "dishonesty". It's more like "disingenuousness". If I'd wanted to accuse him of "dishonesty" in the post you were replying to, I would have.

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Originally posted by robbie carrobie
Please see the post above this and try to keep a grip on your knickers.
Keep a grip on my knickers? My word, you really are running out of ideas.

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Originally posted by FMF
You saying that you have not found his behaviour "passive aggressive" is a subjective comment on your part. If you really believe that opinions that people express have little meaning beyond what they themselves imbue them with, then the same must surely apply to all the opinions you express too.
No I don't thin it does because I try where possible to have corroborating evidence for my opinions whereas as you seem content to express purely subjective values.

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