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Mission Impossible: Dead Reckoning

Mission Impossible: Dead Reckoning

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@divegeester said
61 yrs old I believe and still a good actor, still fit, does most of his own bike work. The shoddiness of this movie isn’t because of him, I think he did his best with a script written by a chatbot vacuous characters, terrible screenplay, directing and a ludicrous plot.

The Google reviews are more interesting than the film; literally thousands saying it’s a “masterpie ...[text shortened]... gives a list of people saying the same sort of things as as I’m saying.

Watch Maverick; quality.
I'm not convinced Cruise can act; I think he just plays himself. But I may be wrong, I haven't seen Maverick.

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@moonbus said
I'm not convinced Cruise can act; I think he just plays himself.
As does/did Clint Eastwood, John Wayne, Harrison Ford and other so-called great actors. Even Richard Burton I’d say.

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@divegeester said
As does/did Clint Eastwood, John Wayne, Harrison Ford and other so-called great actors. Even Richard Burton I’d say.
I don't think a TV or film actor needs to be able to portray a wide range of characters. I think one is enough, although I take my hat off to those who can and have portrayed many more.

I think acting on the screen is a highly specialized thing that involves being able to do certain things consistently - and possibly repetitively - with your voice and face and body while a camera is rolling, whether it be for 2-3 seconds or some number of minutes, in such a way that it can then all be spliced together and give the impression that it is a believable character [on some level of storytelling or genre] and that everything you are seeing actually occurred in sequence and seamlessly.

Probably 99% of the world's population would not be able to do this well enough to be convincing or to be paid well for it.

Given all this, I don't really think it matters all that much how many distinct characters an actor is able to portray believably [in an environment that, seeing as it isn't news or documentary footage, is literally make-believe.

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@FMF

Some actors stand out. Gary Cooper, for example: you could read his thoughts in his face. "High Noon" is a masterpiece of acting talent, and justly won an Oscar.

I agree that John Wayne just played himself.

Bogey was a fine actor, but did poorly in comedy (in "We're No Angels," for example, Bogart was mis-cast -- Peter Ustinov stole the show).

Robin Williams was a fine and versatile actor.

Wm. Shatner is a ham. Patrick Stewart, on the other hand, is real actor.

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@moonbus said
@FMF

Wm. Shatner is a ham. Patrick Stewart, on the other hand, is real actor.
How dare you!

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@moonbus said
@FMF

Some actors stand out. Gary Cooper, for example: you could read his thoughts in his face. "High Noon" is a masterpiece of acting talent, and justly won an Oscar.

I agree that John Wayne just played himself.

Bogey was a fine actor, but did poorly in comedy (in "We're No Angels," for example, Bogart was mis-cast -- Peter Ustinov stole the show).

Robin Williams ...[text shortened]... ine and versatile actor.

Wm. Shatner is a ham. Patrick Stewart, on the other hand, is real actor.
It's a mere matter of terminology. Anyone that plays a role in a film, on TV, or on the stage professionally is a real actor. As for who is a good or versatile actor, that's another thing. If the actor gets a paycheque for pretending to be a character in [say] a film, even if they "play themselves" ~ even if they do it over and over again ~ then he or she is "real" even if they are a "ham".

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@fmf said
It's a mere matter of terminology. Anyone that plays a role in a film, on TV, or on the stage professionally is a real actor. As for who is a good or versatile actor, that's another thing. If the actor gets a paycheque for pretending to be a character in [say] a film, even if they "play themselves" ~ even if they do it over and over again ~ then he or she is "real" even if they are a "ham".
Sure, anyone who gets paid to do it is a real actor, but some are definitely better at it than others, regardless how much or little they are paid. Keanu Reeves, for example, is wooden; just says his lines and manages not to bump into the furniture, but shows little or no emotion or even interest in his characters. If that's what his character calls for, fine, but I've never seen him play anything else, so it makes me wonder whether he can play a character with emotions.

Diane Keaton and Meryl Streep, on the other hand, are fine actresses, there is credible fire and passion in their performances.

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Finest acting ever: Arnie in 'The Terminator.'

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@moonbus said
Sure, anyone who gets paid to do it is a real actor, but some are definitely better at it than others, regardless how much or little they are paid. Keanu Reeves, for example, is wooden; just says his lines and manages not to bump into the furniture, but shows little or no emotion or even interest in his characters. If that's what his character calls for, fine, but I've never ...[text shortened]... p, on the other hand, are fine actresses, there is credible fire and passion in their performances.
Clint Eastwood is a real actor. So is Cillian Murphy, although I'd say Murphy is a better actor than Eastwood.

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@a-unique-nickname said
Haven't been to the cinema in over a year but thanks for the info.
I went on Saturday... Didn't watch mission impossible, instead had an enjoyable 3 hours watching a movie about the making of a boom that killed thousands.

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the actor you never think of when talking about acting skills, but can be anything, do anything, make you believe anything

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