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Originally posted by GalaxyShield
You do realize that they're putting together 30000 national guard and army troops in to help right? It takes time to put stuff together. It seems like the people are doing their best with what they can do, they can't get many busses and stuff in cause of the water. So what can they do besides what they're already doing?
Yeah it takes time to put stuff together. How long have they known this thing was coming? ... at least a week. Bush has the gall to say "no one knew the levees would be breached". Think about the stupidity of that comment. They were expecting a cat-5 hurricane to direct hit N.O. and didn't expect this? Think about this: knowing what's coming you position literally hundereds of Natinoal Guard trucks loaded to the brim with water and rations. You drive in immediately (those vehicles can get through the downed trees and water), drop supplies and lots of troops to maintain order, and cart out the first of the refugees. Repeat as necessary. Hello, where was the wonderful Dept of Homeland Security in the leadup to this?????

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Originally posted by UmbrageOfSnow
People should work more to help each other, it's often the best way to help themselves, greediness can get everyone killed sometimes. People should have two things down there: Morals and Intelligence.

And would you shoot at people coming to help you and everyone else??
I don't think you would, and I certainly hope not.
Shooting at people comming to help you is boneheaded. Shooting people taking food out of my families mouths while waiting for help is another thing.

Sorry, I am pretty basic in this regard. It is just the way I am.

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Originally posted by ictoan
This disaster was years in the making. The apparent and almost total lack of preparedness on the part of FEMA and the Bush team is nothing short of criminal.
As an American citizen I am also deeply ashamed by how quickly so many of the ‘victims’ abandoned all sense of civility and turned on each other.
Did New Orleans become vunerable when Bush took office? Why didn't Clinton do anything? (I don't blame him), What about Carter? (I don't blame him either) LBJ?? FDR? How many concervative presidents would you like to roast? I could blame just as may liberals...BOTH, in error. It is, (was) a city in a bad location since it's inception and stange enough, it never got any further inland...... imagine that.

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Originally posted by clive59
Yeah it takes time to put stuff together. How long have they known this thing was coming? ... at least a week. Bush has the gall to say "no one knew the levees would be breached". Think about the stupidity of that comment. They were expecting a cat-5 hurricane to direct hit N.O. and didn't expect this? Think about this: knowing what's coming you position ...[text shortened]... s necessary. Hello, where was the wonderful Dept of Homeland Security in the leadup to this?????
Were was the Louisiana State Government? Aren't they also elected to watch out for the citizens?

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Originally posted by clive59
Yeah it takes time to put stuff together. How long have they known this thing was coming? ... at least a week. Bush has the gall to say "no one knew the levees would be breached". Think about the stupidity of that comment. They were expecting a cat-5 hurricane to direct hit N.O. and didn't expect this? Think about this: knowing what's coming you position ...[text shortened]... s necessary. Hello, where was the wonderful Dept of Homeland Security in the leadup to this?????
Agreed. But my post wasn't about what they should've done, there's nothing we can do about that now, it happened. It was to say that they weren't doing anything like arrakis seemed to indicate and that there weren't any troops going to go in and help. I think we all agree that something should've been done in advance, due to the fact that this was most likely going to happen. But there's nothing we can do besides help now. I would donate stuff if I had the means of transportation and money or food/water to donate but don't have either. At least I think I would, if I could get my mom to drive I think she'd want to help aswell. We'll see I guess.

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Originally posted by GalaxyShield
You do realize that they're putting together 30000 national guard and army troops in to help right? It takes time to put stuff together. It seems like the people are doing their best with what they can do, they can't get many busses and stuff in cause of the water. So what can they do besides what they're already doing?
Yes, it takes time to put things together. How about they should have used the time a week agio when they knew a category 5 hurricane was heading straight for New Orleans and that the levees wouldn't hold? Why didn't thye prepare then? What about FEMA? Why werwen't they prepared? That is the reason for the existence of FEMA? I guess George was too busy relaxing at the ranch to get his admionistration to prepare.

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Originally posted by elvendreamgirl
Yes, it takes time to put things together. How about they should have used the time a week agio when they knew a category 5 hurricane was heading straight for New Orleans and that the levees wouldn't hold? Why didn't thye prepare then? What about FEMA? Why werwen't they prepared? That is the reason for the existence of FEMA? I guess George was too busy relaxing at the ranch to get his admionistration to prepare.
STANG might be best suited to answer this...

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I am very upset about the situation in New Orleans. It was a beautiful vibrant romantic city steeped in history. It was the ultimate "American melting pot" when the USA was a young country. To see ity wiped off the earth is devastating. The people left in the city are the very poor and the elderly and frail. A small group of the some 100,000 refugees left in the city are animals. They have looted the stores, stealing guns, drugs, and food. I can grant them, or anyone the food, but not the rest. Most of the people remaining in the city are desparate to be saved, while the scum of the earth are murdering and raping. The authorities should shoot the looters, plain and simple.
It is just inconcievable that this is happening in America. And even more so, that our rescuers can't get to the people without being shot. I saw the bodies today of babies who died from no water,, people who dropped dead walking to salvation. Unbelievable.

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Originally posted by ictoan
This disaster was years in the making. The apparent and almost total lack of preparedness on the part of FEMA and the Bush team is nothing short of criminal.
As an American citizen I am also deeply ashamed by how quickly so many of the ‘victims’ abandoned all sense of civility and turned on each other.
Check this out!
http://service.spiegel.de/cache/international/0,1518,372455,00.html

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Originally posted by GalaxyShield
Agreed. But my post wasn't about what they should've done, there's nothing we can do about that now, it happened. It was to say that they weren't doing anything like arrakis seemed to indicate and that there weren't any troops going to go in and help. I think we all agree that something should've been done in advance, due to the fact that this was ...[text shortened]... I would, if I could get my mom to drive I think she'd want to help aswell. We'll see I guess.
That's NOT what I said in my post GalaxyShield. Read my first post again.

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Originally posted by helden
No one seems to be in a hurry to help them, of course the majority of them are poor black people say no more.
It seems amazing to me that helicopters seem to be able to fly over to get us our TV footage, but it would be the simplest thing in the world to load it up with bottles of water, at least, and rations and drop it off.
Nobody should be without food and water there.
Oh, and everybody I've heard mention that the people left behind are poor and black seems to be British. It's not inconceivable that in southern US cities the majority of the population is black anyway, so that's hardly a surprise. As for being poor, that's the way it goes I'm afraid...

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Originally posted by elvendreamgirl
Yes, it takes time to put things together. How about they should have used the time a week agio when they knew a category 5 hurricane was heading straight for New Orleans and that the levees wouldn't hold? Why didn't thye prepare then? What about FEMA? Why werwen't they prepared? That is the reason for the existence of FEMA? I guess George was too busy relaxing at the ranch to get his admionistration to prepare.
If you would've read my post before you did you would've seen that I agreed with that already.

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Originally posted by Varg
It seems amazing to me that helicopters seem to be able to fly over to get us our TV footage, but it would be the simplest thing in the world to load it up with bottles of water, at least, and rations and drop it off.
Nobody should be without food and water there.
Oh, and everybody I've heard mention that the people left behind are poor and black seems to be ...[text shortened]... anyway, so that's hardly a surprise. As for being poor, that's the way it goes I'm afraid...
CNN's been talking about race and class in this as well . OK , maybe the population has a large percentage of blacks , but I'm sure it's not above 99% . 99% of the refuges appear to be black .

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Originally posted by arrakis
That's NOT what I said in my post GalaxyShield. Read my first post again.
Yea, I see that. I apologize for that. The thing about the troops all being in Iraq still seems wrong to me though, since they're going to send in about 30000 of them to help. And yes I know they should've had that many ready and that they should've re-enforced stuff ahead of time. There's no need to talk about that now though, won't make much of a difference.

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Originally posted by ETeach The United States is the most giving country in the world! Without us MANY people in underdeveloped countries would starve. Period. [/b]
Are you taking about overall giving or per capita?
The USA gives a large proportion of its foreign aid to Pakistan, Iran, Iraq, Afghanistan where they have reasons other than charity to be involved.

Reading an array of newspapers discussing Katrina everyone of them mentioned the Kyoto agreement. Why do you think that might be?


Why is the USA trying to get out of the Millenium Treaty when every other country in the world has signed up and is in favour. Ooops USA did sign it but they are trying to back out now.

Why does the USA spend 0.03 cents per $100 on charity and $5.00 / $100 on military spending.

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