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30 Mar 18
Originally posted by @divegeesterThumbed down LOL.
Good to see the “professionals” decision to release Warbouys was not only overturned, but pretty much derided by the judge and the head of parole board quits in the debacle. Justice all round I’d say.
31 Mar 18
Originally posted by @divegeesterI hope the right decision has been made. I'm not happy with the media hype and
Good to see the “professionals” decision to release Warbouys was not only overturned, but pretty much derided by the judge and the head of parole board quits in the debacle. Justice all round I’d say.
the constant referral to hundreds of rapes. He should have been charged and if guilty
banged up for life, that wasn't the case and I think questions should be asked about that.
It is also not a good thing when professional decisions are overturned, and a review
of the system is needed to avoid future instances. The courts should be needed
occasionally as the final "check and balance" only.
Originally posted by @wolfgang59I think it’s excellent when so called “professionals” decisions get overturned. It shows that they are being held accountable. There’s always media hype; saying you are not happy about it, is moot.
I hope the right decision has been made. I'm not happy with the media hype and
the constant referral to hundreds of rapes. He should have been charged and if guilty
banged up for life, that wasn't the case and I think questions should be asked about that.
It is also not a good thing when professional decisions are overturned, and a review
of the ...[text shortened]... ure instances. The courts should be needed
occasionally as the final "check and balance" only.
31 Mar 18
Originally posted by @divegeesterIn a perfect society professionals opinions would not be overturned.
I think it’s excellent when so called “professionals” decisions get overturned. It shows that they are being held accountable. There’s always media hype; saying you are not happy about it, is moot.
We should aim for that perfect society, all the while maintaining
accountability and a means to check and overturn their decisions.
Originally posted by @wolfgang59Is everyone in NZ living in your ideologue dream world?
In a perfect society professionals opinions would not be overturned.
We should aim for that perfect society, all the while maintaining
accountability and a means to check and overturn their decisions.
I know you are a long way away, but surely it’s not 1960s California or rural Scotland down there?
Originally posted by @divegeesterSo I wasn’t being over dramatic when I said that these people
Good to see the “professionals” decision to release Warbouys was not only overturned, but pretty much derided by the judge and the head of parole board quits in the debacle. Justice all round I’d say.
‘put their jobs on the line’ with the decisions they have to make?
31 Mar 18
Originally posted by @divegeesterAn interesting case with a bit more to it than the failings of the parole board who for some reason dismissed the fact that Warbuoys protested his innocence for a number of years and ignored the views, via prison documentation, of those who were more closely involved with the perpetrator in prison which were of the view that he was manipulative enough to lie about feeling any remorse for his actions.
Good to see the “professionals” decision to release Warbouys was not only overturned, but pretty much derided by the judge and the head of parole board quits in the debacle. Justice all round I’d say.
The investigation was flawed right from the start with the Police failing to maintain adequate records which could have led to Warbuoys being convicted 6 years earlier; long before his alleged assaults and rapes reached 100+.
The Metropolitan Police have been fighting a compensation claim in excess of £40k since 2014 by two of Warbuoys victims under article 3 of the Human Rights Act.
The only way these 2 victims have managed to get their case to court has been via crowd funding. They now plan to challenge the parole board upon the limited information they provide to victims upon their their conclusions to release a perpetrator.
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2018/feb/21/john-worboys-victims-win-human-rights-case-against-policeŶ
31 Mar 18
Originally posted by @drewnogalI guess he should have been released then, huh?
An interesting case with a bit more to it than the failings of the parole board who for some reason dismissed the fact that Warbuoys protested his innocence for a number of years and ignored the views, via prison documentation, of those who were more closely involved with the perpetrator in prison which were of the view that he was manipulative enough to ...[text shortened]... w.theguardian.com/uk-news/2018/feb/21/john-worboys-victims-win-human-rights-case-against-policeŶ
Originally posted by @drewnogalWell he resigned because of the disgrace accompanying his incompetence, so yes you were.
So I wasn’t being over dramatic when I said that these people
‘put their jobs on the line’ with the decisions they have to make?
Originally posted by @divegeesterThat's a very stupid thing to say dive.
Is everyone in NZ living in your ideologue dream world?
Originally posted by @wolfgang59It’s not stupid, but I do realise it was a little flippant and implies that you are living a privileged and somewhat isolated existence about 12,000 miles from what is happening in the UK.
That's a very stupid thing to say dive.
Originally posted by @divegeesterI'm British, all my family live in UK, I lived there for 51 years and I read
It’s not stupid, but I do realise it was a little flippant and implies that you are living a privileged and somewhat isolated existence about 12,000 miles from what is happening in the UK.
the BBC UK news every day. So I think I know what is happening in UK
as much or more than you know about the original topic of this thread.
01 Apr 18
Originally posted by @wolfgang59My point was more about you choosing not to live here in the UK and to live a very different and some would say privileged lifestyle in a country more akin to the the pace and culture of the UK of decades ago. By the way you really ought to read more than just the BBC version of the news old chap.
I'm British, all my family live in UK, I lived there for 51 years and I read
the BBC UK news every day. So I think I know what is happening in UK
as much or more than you know about the original topic of this thread.
Originally posted by @divegeesterI really don't want to list EVERYTHING I read!
By the way you really ought to read more than just the BBC version of the news old chap.
That would be rather boring ... but it does include the quality British & US press.
Care to give us your reading list?