@fmf saidI must plead ignorance on this one. Though I can write a reasonably well, the finer details of sentence structure, syntax, and the like I leave to others. My High School and College English classes were an exercise in frustration and boredom, taught by creative writing folks who would drone on endlessly about characterization, archetypes, figurative language and other (less than) vital skills of written communication. This didn't work for business students like me who just wanted the facts, and saw creative writing as little more than "mental masturbation" 😏
In correct English, there is a very specific order in which multiple adjectives should be uttered or written.
This thread is for creating a body of message board communication in which adjective word order rules are flouted so that linguistic archaeologists of the future will find evidence here of people refusing to conform and so creating new facts on the ground about the English language.
21 Jul 22
@divegeester saidNot at all. I'm not arrogant enough to think I'm brilliant.
Only this one?
@mchill saidNative English speakers tend to get adjective order correct "instinctively" because its "rules" have been internalized but not consciously. Non-native speakers have to learn it. [Indeed, the same goes for grammar more generally speaking.]
I must plead ignorance on this one.
The Indonesian language doesn't have an "adjective order" issue. When I was lecturing Indonesians once, I turned to a group of Germans in the room, having explained the adjective order in English 'problem', and they [having never taught German to anyone] initially said they didn't have it in the German language.
As I gave a few examples to the rest of the group, the Germans started to realize that they most certainly DID have an adjective order thing but they'd never really thought about it.
Then they worried that they did not know what the order should be in English.
And then, finally, they realized that they did, after all, have a pretty good idea of what the order should be in English because they had been exposed to lots of written and spoken English already in their lives.
Unpacking instinctive/intuitive language syntax, especially in one's mother tongue or a language one is already fluent in, can be a wee bit unsettling.
For example, if I have to actually THINK about adjective order, I can get confused and/or I cannot immediately reference the relevant order/rule. But if I DON'T THINK about it, it comes out correctly.
21 Jul 22
@fmf saidI’ll give you a red big balloon if you change your avatar’s white bulging eyes.
Native English speakers tend to get adjective order correct "instinctively" because its "rules" have been internalized but not consciously. Non-native speakers have to learn it. [Indeed, the same goes for grammar more generally speaking.]
The Indonesian language doesn't have an "adjective order" issue. When I was lecturing Indonesians once, I turned to a group of Germans in t ...[text shortened]... mmediately reference the relevant order/rule. But if I DON'T THINK about it, it comes out correctly.