29 Dec 11
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Originally posted by Shallow BlueYes. Obviously. Politics is supposed to be divisive, cruel and intolerant of other beliefs. Religion is not. Not quite sure what your point is.
More people have been killed by three famous followers of Marx than in all religious conflicts put together. Says enough, doesn't it?
Richard
Cheeses of Nazareth
30 Dec 11
That's true of all religions, but some are more exteme than others, some are more accommodative than others too. If someone is shoplifting or having one night stands, thay're better off if they're caught by non-moslems in a non-moslem culture/community/state/republic.
30 Dec 11
Originally posted by oatAll religions have their extremist factions. I think it is misleading to suggest that some are mre extreme than others. Take the Crusades, The Spanish Inquisition, the missionaries.
That's true of all religions, but some are more exteme than others, some are more accommodative than others too. If someone is shoplifting or having one night stands, thay're better off if they're caught by non-moslems in a non-moslem culture/community/state/republic.
30 Dec 11
Originally posted by Pianoman1There are extremes in everything: politics, sports fans, pop fans, even extreme internet threads about nothing at all except tenuous word connections and stickiness.
All religions have their extremist factions. I think it is misleading to suggest that some are mre extreme than others. Take the Crusades, The Spanish Inquisition, the missionaries.
30 Dec 11
Originally posted by divegeesterThe point I have been trying, unsuccessfully, to make is that Religion should be above division and extremes. You expect it in other areas of life. But you are the Prisoner, Divegeester, your life is under constant scrutiny - there can be no extremes in your world!
There are extremes in everything: politics, sports fans, pop fans, even extreme internet threads about nothing at all except tenuous word connections and stickiness.
30 Dec 11
Originally posted by Pianoman1I don't see why religion should be above extremes or divisions?
The point I have been trying, unsuccessfully, to make is that Religion should be above division and extremes. You expect it in other areas of life. But you are the Prisoner, Divegeester, your life is under constant scrutiny - there can be no extremes in your world!
30 Dec 11
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Originally posted by Pianoman1How.... wut.
The point I have been trying, unsuccessfully, to make is that Religion should be above division and extremes. You expect it in other areas of life. But you are the Prisoner, Divegeester, your life is under constant scrutiny - there can be no extremes in your world!
You've got one guy who doesn't swear because he believes that offends God.
Another guy who won't eat shellfish or pork for the same reason.
Yet another guy who stoned his neighbor's wife for adultery.
What person lives right in God's opinion? How do you avoid division and extremes? Who decides what is extreme?
WELL?
31 Dec 11
Originally posted by PhlabibitI rest my case!
How.... wut.
You've got one guy who doesn't swear because he believes that offends God.
Another guy who won't eat shellfish or pork for the same reason.
Yet another guy who stoned his neighbor's wife for adultery.
What person lives right in God's opinion? How do you avoid division and extremes? Who decides what is extreme?
WELL?
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04 Jan 12
Originally posted by Pianoman1Well. That explains a thing or two about you.
Yes. Obviously. Politics is supposed to be divisive, cruel and intolerant of other beliefs.
I'd prefer my politicians try to lead and foster my country, rather than destroy it from the inside out. Maybe that's a weird thing to want.
Richard
04 Jan 12
Originally posted by Shallow BlueWhat I meant is that politics is divisive because it is confrontational - the left attacks the right, the right attacke the centre, the centre attacks everyone. Views are polarized. Whereas religion should be inclusive, unioinising (is that a word?), harmonizing and toe-curling. The problem with religion, in my opinion, is that it is too political, too confrontational, too blind, too unforgiving, too members only. I have no problem with spirituality, but there are fewer Christians in church than out.
Well. That explains a thing or two about you.
I'd prefer my politicians try to lead and foster my country, rather than destroy it from the inside out. Maybe that's a weird thing to want.
Richard