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24 Jun 21
26 Jun 21
@mghrn55 saidFrom what I've heard, this seems to be connected with which vaccine you get.
From what I've read and what I heard.......
If you reacted badly to a first jab, there is a chance you were infected with COVID.
Because you already generated some antibodies.
As a rule, 2nd jabs always have more serious effects than the first one.
If you are infected before your first jab, then the first jab will feel like a 2nd one.
I've heard the second shot is worse for some, and the first shot worse for others. Seems to have a connection to the vaccine type.
26 Jun 21
@suzianne saidNo side effects for me so far I think, other than that I have been extremely tired on two occasions, I just wanted to sleep during the afternoon and night too.
From what I've heard, this seems to be connected with which vaccine you get.
I've heard the second shot is worse for some, and the first shot worse for others. Seems to have a connection to the vaccine type.
27 Jun 21
@divegeester saidThey aren't "Somewhat" experimental. If you have had one then you enrolled onto a clinical trial that will last until 2023.
- The vaccines are somewhat experimental but nevertheless the risk of a serious reaction is very small
According to the UK Govt they don't prevent transmission or infection, and it is "hoped" that they will reduce symptoms. I can take paracetamol and don't have to do any hoping at all.
Def of a vaccine
" a substance used to stimulate the production of antibodies and provide immunity against one or several diseases, prepared from the causative agent of a disease, its products, or a synthetic substitute, treated to act as an antigen without inducing the disease. "
You haven't had a vaccine, you have had an experimental injection.
27 Jun 21
@medullah saidThank you Med for sharing interesting and convincing material. It's a risk both ways - having the vaccines or not. As I have never had an influenza vaccination before this one, it wasn't a quick decision.
They aren't "Somewhat" experimental. If you have had one then you enrolled onto a clinical trial that will last until 2023.
According to the UK Govt they don't prevent transmission or infection, and it is "hoped" that they will reduce symptoms. I can take paracetamol and don't have to do any hoping at all.
Def of a vaccine
" a substance used to stimulate the produc ...[text shortened]... ithout inducing the disease. "
You haven't had a vaccine, you have had an experimental injection.
27 Jun 21
@medullah saidPresumably a television isn't a television if it doesn't have a cathode ray tube?
They aren't "Somewhat" experimental. If you have had one then you enrolled onto a clinical trial that will last until 2023.
According to the UK Govt they don't prevent transmission or infection, and it is "hoped" that they will reduce symptoms. I can take paracetamol and don't have to do any hoping at all.
Def of a vaccine
" a substance used to stimulate the produc ...[text shortened]... ithout inducing the disease. "
You haven't had a vaccine, you have had an experimental injection.
27 Jun 21
@torunn saidAll my life I caught the flu every year, I have no resistance to it, and several times I got it so bad I was gasping and wheezing for breath for a week before shaking it off. 20 years ago I started getting yearly flu shots and haven't had it since.
Thank you Med for sharing interesting and convincing material. It's a risk both ways - having the vaccines or not. As I have never had an influenza vaccination before this one, it wasn't a quick decision.
Covid shots didn't bother me a bit and the latest info is that almost 100% of the recent deaths are people that haven't been vaccinated, so I'm glad I got the Moderna shots.
27 Jun 21
@dood111 saidCongratulations.
My wife and I have had both Moderna shots, we are in our 70's, and neither of us had any ill effects whatsoever.
On having a wife I mean.
27 Jun 21
@dood111 saidGood for you, seriously.
All my life I caught the flu every year, I have no resistance to it, and several times I got it so bad I was gasping and wheezing for breath for a week before shaking it off. 20 years ago I started getting yearly flu shots and haven't had it since.
Covid shots didn't bother me a bit and the latest info is that almost 100% of the recent deaths are people that haven't been vaccinated, so I'm glad I got the Moderna shots.
I do respect people’s right to not have a vaccination if they don’t want one, and I’m against all this punitive forcing of people to have one. However I also think the risks are minimal. I won’t be having vaccinations on an ongoing basis as I don’t react well to even the flu jab, but for the moment I feel it’s the right thing to do. For me.
The post that was quoted here has been removedYou're not a native speaker of English, obviously. "It nearly killed me" is a turn of phrase or we could say it is an idiom, if you want.
Take: "I am having doubts about going out for a drink with Dave 'ten pints' Whitney again; last time, it nearly killed me."
Or: "I finally worked my way through all the books on that long and boring reading list; blimey, it almost killed me."
It made me giggle that you speculated that 'it nearly killed someone' might have been a "medical opinion." But English isn't your first language, so that explains it. Idiomatic language can be tricky. One shouldn't laugh. Congratulations to you for being as good as you are.
Of course, I am being more charitable than those who would think you were just stuck for something authentic to add to a thread of this kind but were intent on grumpily sniffing the poster's gusset, so to speak, and trying to say something of a pompous virtue signalling kind.
29 Jun 21
@divegeester saidI haven't even had a first one yet as vaccines are in short supply in the Indonesian city where I live.
When the 1st jab nearly killed me.
Thoughts?
So I have TWO jabs that might nearly kill me to look forward to! LOL.
29 Jun 21
The post that was quoted here has been removeda) read what FMF replied to you. Do read all of his reply as it becomes more informative and insightful as his post progresses.
b) it is interesting that you believe it to be a privilege to be able to choose wether to have a vaccination of not. There are legal moves in the UK (and I believe the US) to make it illegal to NOT be vaccinated in certain employments, meaning some people in low paid, low skilled caring roles are being forced to leave their jobs because of that privilege.
c) yes I’m aware of that. Your post reminds me of when my Mum use say to me as a child “eat up all your food because there are people starving in other countries”
d) why are you here duchess64?