30 Jun 12
Originally posted by FMFWell thanks for all the straw men but:
I don't support censorship. I don't think the publication of the book in the OP should be blocked. I don't think there is any question mark over the "validity" of the book. I am not any more or less concerned about "the possibility of a real life serial killer becoming a popular culture anti hero" as a result of this book being published. The book does not affec ...[text shortened]... ociety is under threat in any way. I am not responsible for what psychopaths do.
"I am not going to make snide or elitist remarks"
I am pretty sure you just did, maybe you do it so often that you have become desensitised to it🙂
Originally posted by kevcvs57Straw men? I just laid out my views, clearly, one by one, in a list. Just my views. How they can be "straw men" is anyone's guess. 😵
Well thanks for all the straw men but:
"I am not going to make snide or elitist remarks" I am pretty sure you just did, maybe you do it so often that you have become desensitised to it.
Doctoring my quote doesn't really work for me. Does it work for you? What I said was "I am not going to make snide or elitist remarks about the people who do read it." You quote only half the sentence for some reason.
30 Jun 12
Originally posted by kevcvs57These are straw men:
Apparently they can Fmf told me so.
Why are you so adamant that these sorts of accounts should be all but compulsory reading for the general public...
And this...
So are you now claiming that societal taboos do not control behaviour at the extremes such as bestiality or say the sexual abuse and murder of children.
Here's another:
Is this your not so subtle way of calling me a liar because I do not embrace the publication of such books with the same enthusiasm as yourself...
And another...
...every question you do not want to answer just disregarded as a straw man
And this:
apparently you have never heard of the phenomenon of desensitization...
And so on and so forth.
😵
30 Jun 12
Originally posted by FMFIn the context that they were written only somebody who was being dis-ingenuous or hyper sensitive would call them straw men, at most they could be considered a bit outlandish or an extreme interpretation of your position.
These are straw men:
[b]Why are you so adamant that these sorts of accounts should be all but compulsory reading for the general public...
And this...
So are you now claiming that societal taboos do not control behaviour at the extremes such as bestiality or say the sexual abuse and murder of children.
Here's another:
Is this your no ...[text shortened]... ou have never heard of the phenomenon of desensitization...
And so on and so forth.
😵[/b]
Unfortunately it seems the only way to get you down from your professorial chair and answer a direct question rather than marking other posters papers is to get you a bit vexed.
At least you did not have tolerate insults such as 'snide', 'elitist' 'condescending' etc. elitist and condescending coming from you fmf, I must be really good at it LOL.
you said this
"You're against censorship, you say, so what do you propose to do to protect us preemptively from book reading "borderline sociopaths" ?"
so I said this
"Is this your not so subtle way of calling me a liar because I do not embrace the publication of such books with the same enthusiasm as yourself... "
see where you have implied there may be a discrepancy between me saying that I am against censorship and what I really think, even though I make the point that I do not agree with any kind of censorship other than perhaps self censorship or the right not to read something on numerous occasions.
30 Jun 12
I am re-posting my overall opinion regarding this subject fmf if you have any issues with it then I will try to clear them up, otherwise I hope this is my last word. It is Saturday night here and I want to have some fun🙂
My position can be summed up by:-
1) Of course people should be able to put their thoughts on paper, and anyone who feels they might either be entertained or enlightened has the right to read them.
2) I would hope that the readership was naturally (not by censorship) restricted to a sub group of readers who are interested in the real crime genre. I am sorry but the idea of people queuing up to have their account of why the author likes to rape, torture, and kill real people, signed by any given psychopath is to my mind a depressing image.
3) if the above mentioned scenario does come about, so be it, that is where we are.
30 Jun 12
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Originally posted by kevcvs57have some fun, are you planning on eating a mars bar Kev, perhaps opening a packet
I am re-posting my overall opinion regarding this subject fmf if you have any issues with it then I will try to clear them up, otherwise I hope this is my last word. It is Saturday night here and I want to have some fun🙂
My position can be summed up by:-
1) Of course people should be able to put their thoughts on paper, and anyone who feels they m ...[text shortened]... g image.
3) if the above mentioned scenario does come about, so be it, that is where we are.
of crisps? 😛 I am playing blitz on FICS, its how i roll on a Saturday night! Sad I know. 😞
30 Jun 12
Originally posted by kevcvs57I am not vexed in the slightest. You've got the completely wrong end of the stick. 😵
Unfortunately it seems the only way to get you down from your professorial chair and answer a direct question rather than marking other posters papers is to get you a bit vexed..
Originally posted by ChessPraxisI'll leave The Wizard Of Oz to the gormless and stinky plebs, with their potato chip crumb covered couches and greasy remote controls, who make up the majority of the clinically dim and feral masses out there.
Hey morons, this is a strawman, and you both qualify.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sSFQy_cLvLU