the Manson murders of the late 1960s

Originally posted by kevcvs57
Then explain how a phenomenon that you accept as an integral aspect of human nature can at the same time be a symptom of 'dehumanization'...

I don't think it is "integral". I think it is ugly. I think it robs victims of their humanity on account of them not being "familiar". I think it enables the atrocities on the scale that they happen. I think it can be resisted. I think it can be rejected. So I certainly think it can be criticized.

Originally posted by kevcvs57
...my question which you avoided before, is how much more upset do we need to be to satisfy your yardstick for a 'common humanity'

Tell you what, let's see how many threads the OP poster and others [those that share his "fascination" with Manson and all the celebrities he listed, STILL, 40 or so years down the road] ...how many threads they start on much more grotesque things that U.S. culture coughed up in 1970, and I will respond to their expressions of upsetness as and if necessary.

Originally posted by HandyAndy
Perhaps you have a latent desire to bite a bulldog. 😉

I partake approximately once a month. Delicious. I doubt that they are actually bulldogs, as such. But near enough. 😉

Originally posted by FMF
I don't think it is "integral". I think it is ugly. I think it robs victims of their humanity on account of them not being "familiar". I think it enables the atrocities on the scale that they happen. I think it can be resisted. I think it can be rejected. So I certainly think it can be criticized.

I think you are wrong.

Originally posted by FMF
Tell you what, let's see how many threads the OP poster and others [those that share his "fascination" with Manson and all the celebrities he listed, STILL, 40 or so years down the road] ...how many threads they start on much more grotesque things that U.S. culture coughed up in 1970, and I will respond to their expressions of upsetness as and if necessary.

Go for it, I await the Disco Dancing op with trepidation.

Originally posted by kevcvs57
I think you are wrong.

I think this has been clear all along. Did you not think it was?

Originally posted by FMF
I think this has been clear all along. Did you not think it was?

Then why post it again. It's ok you can have the last word.

Originally posted by kevcvs57
Then why post it again. It's ok you can have the last word.

*LOL* you guys "slay" me.🙄