Trumps wall

@shallow-blue said
Ask your proudly Anglo-Saxon ancestors, mate.

Then ask your Celtic neighbours.

Well you got a grin out of me, well done and thanks.
But you’re not really addressing my honest question.

@divegeester said
Leaving aside Trump and US politics for a moment; why does anyone think that uncontrolled immigration is either a good idea or somehow carries a standard of righteousness?

Who do you think is advocating uncontrolled immigration? Has one at all in these forums seriously proposed it?

@moonbus said
Who do you think is advocating uncontrolled immigration? Has one at all in these forums seriously proposed it?

Yes, several regular posters in the debates forum.

So what is your concept of “controlled migration” from Mexico into the US? Does it exist now?

@divegeester said
Yes, several regular posters in the debates forum.

So what is your concept of “controlled migration” from Mexico into the US? Does it exist now?

It does and has done for many years and will continue to. I don't want to be maudlin but...

@great-big-stees said
It does and has done for many years and will continue to. I don't want to be maudlin but...

If the migration from Mexico to the US is controlled then why do many Americans feel the need for a wall to control it?

@divegeester said
If the migration from Mexico to the US is controlled then why do many Americans feel the need for a wall to control it?

I suspect that the ones who want a wall don't understand the word control in this instance.

@divegeester said
Yes, several regular posters in the debates forum.

So what is your concept of “controlled migration” from Mexico into the US? Does it exist now?

I stand corrected; I did not realize anyone actually advocated uncontrolled immigration.

Regarding the US/Mexican border, there is an immigration policy in force. How effectively it is enforced is another matter.

@divegeester said
If the migration from Mexico to the US is controlled then why do many Americans feel the need for a wall to control it?

Because it is impractical to post a guard within sight of the next one along the entire border.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-51308506

@moonbus said
Because it is impractical to post a guard within sight of the next one along the entire border.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-51308506

Then by definition, immigration from Mexico to the US is not controlled.

Policy is irrelevant if it’s not executable.

@moonbus said
Regarding the US/Mexican border, there is an immigration policy in force. How effectively it is enforced is another matter.

Which is exactly my point, immigration from Mexico to the US is uncontrolled.

@moonbus said
I stand corrected; I did not realize anyone actually advocated uncontrolled immigration.

There are several posters in Debates who feel that there should be no borders whatsoever and everyone from any country should be able to migrate as they see fit. KazetNagorra is the most vociferous; he and I have had numerous exchanges over the topic. Of course the notion is an ideological fairytale.

@great-big-stees said
Where there's a will, there's a way.

Where there’s a wall there’s a tunnel.

@trev33 said
Where there’s a wall there’s a tunnel.

I would save up to get a cheap sea ticket to a Canadian port and then stay there and open a Mexican diner.

@trev33 said
Where there’s a wall there’s a tunnel.

Speak of the devil:
It starts in a small industrial building in Tijuana, Mexico, according to United States officials.
From there, the extensive tunnel snakes underground beneath the U.S.-Mexico border, finally ending roughly 4,309 feet later in Southern California, U.S. Customs and Border Protection officials said in a news release on Wednesday.
Federal officials called it “the longest illicit cross-border tunnel ever discovered along the Southwest border.”

Read more here: https://www.sacbee.com/news/nation-world/national/article239772258.html#storylink=cpy

@earl-of-trumps said
Speak of the devil:
[b]It starts in a small industrial building in Tijuana, Mexico, according to United States officials.
From there, the extensive tunnel snakes underground beneath the U.S.-Mexico border, finally ending roughly 4,309 feet later in Southern California, U.S. Customs and Border Protection officials said in a news release on Wednesday.
Federal officia ...[text shortened]... ead more here: https://www.sacbee.com/news/nation-world/national/article239772258.html#storylink=cpy

I thought that was supposed to be for sending drugs to the Americanos who think they're manna from heaven ...