What's your IQ?

Originally posted by Tygert
I hope this will not be the case with me but in truth I doubt it will. I do anything possible to keep my brain as active as possible. You name it, the crossword, sudoku, reading Isaac Newton's Principia Mathematica, any books on science I can get hold of and so on. Mental exercise is extremely important.

The problem is for extremely high IQ's, normally done as a child, a kid of say 5 can come up with results that would take an average 10 year old and they assign a number of 200 in that case. So someone like Marilyn Vos Savant who clocked in at something like 235, that meant that as a 5 (if that was when it was taken, have no idea) it would have taken a child of age 12 roughly, to arrive at the same conclusions the 5 yo genius did.

So you segway up to adulthood and it's not so simple any more.

If you are say, age 20, does that mean you score as high as an average 45 year old?

No. Because by the time you are 25 or 30 maybe a little later, your brain is as good as it is going to get on its own outside of study, training and so forth. Its native intelligence won't get any better after that.

So in Vos Savant's case I think she took another test, maybe the one from Omni magazine, now defunct, they did a national test years back and the senator from Hawaii, I think his name was Daniel Inouye, got the highest score, clocking in somewhere south of 190. Marilyn did something like 186. Still one in a million or better but 50 points off her childhood numbers.

I think (don't know for sure, not being an expert) but I think the nature of the test will be different if you are an adult vs one you take at age 5.

Ah, reading back I see this ground has been covered. Sorry.

Originally posted by MISTER CHESS
You only admitted your mistake recently, in the beginning you refused to admit anything beyond editing your post and only that after a whole page of replies.

Acting like you are superior is only made worse by the thread topic. I understand, do not worry, I was young and stubborn once as well. Nobody likes to be corrected, the mark of a truly superio ...[text shortened]... in the wrong as you cannot control them, you can only be gracious and hope they will in return.

In fact, I was the only one who did not call the others names or get vulgar, less resort to childish tactics: something you would expect of someone my age, not theirs.

Originally posted by Tygert
I'm sorry, calling someone a retard is [b]not a joke. Down's Syndrome is not a laughing matter and it was not in good spirits.[/b]

I see.

Originally posted by divegeester
I see.

I have looked after Down's Syndrome children as one of my parent's best friends' girls has it. She is 18 but cannot read one-word-per-page picture books and she is obsessed with plugs of all kinds. It saddens me to know that they will never be able to fit it to the world and that people with no empathy make "You're a retard" jokes all the time.

Originally posted by divegeester
I see.

Do you also see that this thread is the best thing that's happened to this forum in many, many months? I, for one, hope Tygert will have another brain storm topic in mind when this one lives out its life. Most forum threads become ornaments at best. This one has the rare distinction of already having become a tree (on which others pin pictures of themselves).

Originally posted by Tygert
In fact, I was the only one who did not call the others names or get vulgar, less resort to childish tactics: something you would expect of someone my age, not theirs.

You're still missing the point, or more likely refusing the point.

It was not anything you specifically said, it was the general way in which you handled the situation that was reproachful.

I'll give up soon, I was never rude to you and I wasn't insulted because I am secure in my own IQ whether it is 50 or 250, I am just trying to help you see the error of your ways so that you can avoid them in the future. I can tell that you do not like being called names, handle future situations with more humility and tact and things will turn out better.

Originally posted by Tygert
I have looked after Down's Syndrome children as one of my parent's best friends' girls has it. She is 18 but cannot read one-word-per-page picture books and she is obsessed with plugs of all kinds. It saddens me to know that they will never be able to fit it to the world and that people with no empathy make "You're a retard" jokes all the time.

My nephew is severely autistic; he never has and never will communicate normally. He is now 10 years old and attends a special learning institution where in a few years he will have to live permanently as my sister and her wonderful husband will no longer be able to care for him due to his increasingly inappropriate and sometimes dangerously violent behaviour. His hair is two feet long all over because (as is common with this condition) he becomes virtually apoplectic with fear and rage if anyone tries to cut it. Over the years I feared my sister would have a nervous breakdown but she has found a strength through her spiritual beliefs and a family around her who support as much as they can. She has lived in grief for the child she hoped for and never had and is reminded everyday that she never will have as she battles with this one to get him screaming to the car, pick him of the supermarket floor, stop him biting himself and other people and grossly over eating to the point of obesity.

Instead of playing the victim, I suggest you live a little, love a little, lose a little and grow a lot.

Originally posted by MISTER CHESS
You're still missing the point, or more likely refusing the point.

It was not anything you specifically said, it was the general way in which you handled the situation that was reproachful.

I'll give up soon, I was never rude to you and I wasn't insulted because I am secure in my own IQ whether it is 50 or 250, I am just trying to help you see the ...[text shortened]... led names, handle future situations with more humility and tact and things will turn out better.

Please explain further. I appreciate you trying to help me but need to see where I went wrong according to you. I have explained that I don't have a lack of humility as someone having a high IQ is not something to boast about as it is like looks, you are born with it. If that is all you have in life then you are a sad person. I'm irritated because people don't see that this thread wasn't supposed to be a brag for me. If I have a score of 161, do you think I couldn't have worked out that my fat brag wouldn't go down well? It is a case study and always will be.

Originally posted by MISTER CHESS
You're still missing the point, or more likely refusing the point.

It was not anything you specifically said, it was the general way in which you handled the situation that was reproachful.

I'll give up soon, I was never rude to you and I wasn't insulted because I am secure in my own IQ whether it is 50 or 250, I am just trying to help you see the ...[text shortened]... led names, handle future situations with more humility and tact and things will turn out better.

I thought that the original point was: -
"According to the Stanford-Binet system, mine is 161. Is this good or bad compared to the average person?

EDIT: what is it like compared to the average chess player?"

Most of all the follow up to this was just flaming and infantile comments. Rather than trying to understand the point being made you all just jumped on the 'hate' band wagon, in an attempt to score cheap empathy points from like minded people, who like making derogatory comments for sport.

Aren't you missing the point?

Mister chess or Mister Point? 😕

Originally posted by divegeester
My nephew is severely autistic; he never has and never will communicate normally. He is now 10 years old and attends a special learning institution where in a few years he will have to live permanently as my sister and her wonderful husband will no longer be able to care for him due to his increasingly inappropriate and sometimes dangerously violent beha ...[text shortened]... of playing the victim, I suggest you live a little, love a little, lose a little and grow a lot.

How is being disgusted at your vulgar comments "being the victim"? If your sister has an autistic child you'd think that you'd be a little more sensitive. You're digging yourself into a hole because the more you say, the more it doesn't make sense.

Originally posted by MISTER CHESS
You're still missing the point, or more likely refusing the point.

It was not anything you specifically said, it was the general way in which you handled the situation that was reproachful.

I'll give up soon, I was never rude to you and I wasn't insulted because I am secure in my own IQ whether it is 50 or 250, I am just trying to help you see the ...[text shortened]... led names, handle future situations with more humility and tact and things will turn out better.

Anyway, Agerg has already apologised to me and some of the others have as well so I don't see what your problem is.

Originally posted by Tygert
How is being disgusted at your vulgar comments "being the victim"? If your sister has an autistic child you'd think that you'd be a little more sensitive. You're digging yourself into a hole because the more you say, the more it doesn't make sense.

Whoosh.

Originally posted by Sicilian Sausage
I thought that the original point was: -
"According to the Stanford-Binet system, mine is 161. Is this good or bad compared to the average person?

EDIT: what is it like compared to the average chess player?"

Most of all the follow up to this was just flaming and infantile comments. Rather than trying to understand the point being made you all ...[text shortened]... ogatory comments for sport.

Aren't you missing the point?

Mister chess or Mister Point? 😕

I do not hate anybody and I didn't jump on any bandwagon. I even told one poster not to go overboard.

I did not make any derogatory comments for sport.

I am missing the point you are trying to make because you have yet to make a point.

The point is that he denied making any mistake repeatedly and when he finally did so it was in such a manner as to make himself appear superior.

He lied and made rude comments. Regardless of whether these comments were in retaliation or not they were wrong, he even made many sarcastic remarks towards me when I have said nothing rude or derogatory towards him.

Originally posted by MISTER CHESS
I do not hate anybody and I didn't jump on any bandwagon. I even told one poster not to go overboard.

I did not make any derogatory comments for sport.

I am missing the point you are trying to make because you have yet to make a point.

The point is that he denied making any mistake repeatedly and when he finally did so it was in such a manner a ...[text shortened]... made many sarcastic remarks towards me when I have said nothing rude or derogatory towards him.

Are you asking for my forgiveness?

Originally posted by Tygert
Anyway, Agerg has already apologised to me and some of the others have as well so I don't see what your problem is.

I don't have a problem. I'm trying to help you alleviate your problem. Ben Franklin had a very high IQ yet he was dedicated to self improvement.

You didn't apologise until Agerg apologised, you wouldn't concede any fault until the other side did in order to make yourself seem superior.