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@the-gravedigger said
They also forgo the terror of having to meet God if they have strayed.
Well, to a Christian, all have fallen short.

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@ghost-of-a-duke said
Then you'd be wrong.
Not according to the definition [from the Cambridge Dictionary] that I have been citing for 120+ forum pages.

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@fmf said
Not according to the definition [from the Cambridge Dictionary] that I have been citing for 120+ forum pages.
Look old chap, 'delusional' comes from a Latin word meaning 'deceiving,' and one can only really deceive oneself when one ignores incontrovertible evidence that one is wrong.

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@divegeester said
I am asking you, the claimed mental health practitioner.
I am no more a 'claimed' mental health practitioner than you are a 'claimed' Christian.

Do you well to remember that.

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@ghost-of-a-duke said
Look old chap, 'delusional' comes from a Latin word meaning 'deceiving,' and one can only really deceive oneself when one ignores incontrovertible evidence that one is wrong.
Delusion: a belief in something that isn't true.

Suggesting that the meaning of a Latin word from which an English word was derived supersedes the contemporary meaning of the English word is, linguisticslly speaking, scraping the bottom of the debating barrel.

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@fmf said
Delusion: a belief in something that isn't true.
Without incontrovertible evidence to the contrary, who gets to decide when something isn't true?

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@ghost-of-a-duke said
Look old chap, 'delusional' comes from a Latin word meaning 'deceiving,' and one can only really deceive oneself when one ignores incontrovertible evidence that one is wrong.
one can only really deceive oneself when one ignores incontrovertible evidence that one is wrong

The word you are looking for here is "self-deceit".

The word we have been talking about means to believe something that is not true.

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@fmf said
one can only really deceive oneself when one ignores incontrovertible evidence that one is wrong

The word you are looking for here is "self-deceit".

The word we have been talking about means to believe something that is not true.
To clarify, all beliefs are delusional, if you personally believe they are wrong? You are the arbitrator for truth?

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@ghost-of-a-duke said
Without incontrovertible evidence to the contrary, who gets to decided when something isn't true?
Whoever's perspective it is.

That's why people like sonship and Suzianne have called me deluded.

Because, to them, I had a belief in something not true.

Such is the way it works in the realm of subjectivity.

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@FMF

Bob believes in the Yeti. You don't believe in the Yeti, but can't prove the Yeti doesn't exist. Is Bob delusional nonetheless because you say he is?

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@ghost-of-a-duke said
To clarify, all beliefs are delusional, if you personally believe they are wrong? You are the arbitrator for truth?
You are the arbitrator for truth?

I get to decide what my perspective on the truth is.

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@ghost-of-a-duke said
@FMF

Bob believes in the Yeti. You don't believe in the Yeti, but can't prove the Yeti doesn't exist. Is Bob delusional nonetheless because you say he is?
Who says I have to "prove" that Bob is delusional with regard to the Yeti?

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@fmf said
Whoever's perspective it is.

That's why people like sonship and Suzianne have called me deluded.

Because, to them, I had a belief in something not true.

Such is the way it works in the realm of subjectivity.
So you calling something delusional is meaningless, outside of yourself?

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@fmf said
Who says I have to "prove" that Bob is delusional with regard to the Yeti?
Ah, so you do get to throw delusional around like a custard tart?

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@ghost-of-a-duke said
Bob believes in the Yeti. You don't believe in the Yeti, but can't prove the Yeti doesn't exist. Is Bob delusional nonetheless because you say he is?
Is Bob delusional nonetheless because you say he is?

Bob would be delusional as far as I'm concerned. You wouldn't have to agree. Your disagreement wouldn't alter my perspective.

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