04 Sep 07
Depending upon how you count, we're embroiled in the 2nd or 3rd Gulf War, The Iraq War the Occupation of Iraq, or Operation Iraqi Freedom... sounds like a series of plotless, badly scripted action movie sequels starring Bruce Willis doesn't it?
We remain isolated from the war, the TV images are sterillized to protect our delicate sensibilities. Where's the horror, the angst, the feeling of disgust that we should associate with such wholesale carnage. Hundreds of thousands of Iraquians dead, bombed, burned, delimbed, widowed, starved, and otherwise violated. Keep in mind that the vast majority of these casualties are innocents, no more in control than you and I are. Still, they suffer.
I think its criminal that we are not exposed to the images of a war that we are responsible for? Give us a personal stake in this war and bring it to a prompt resolution. I'm not saying that we shouldn't fight. I'm all for protecting ourselves, our assets and our future. I'm even alright with securing the Oil Resources in the Middle East by political, financial and military means. I'm just saying that we shouldn't be insulated from the consequences of our actions.
04 Sep 07
The post that was quoted here has been removedI've seen some bits where they bomb people from very high altitudes, obviously without any grasp on what they're really doing. instead it's like a videogame for them, and the soldiers actually laugh as they see people getting blown to pieces on their infrared screens. they're high up there, completely safe, untouchable and detached from the reality of war which happens far below.
I doubt it should be made into entertainment, but there should be some kinds of a real connection to what war means on a personal level. bodies should be shown, as well as kids with amputated limbs, and their parents talking about it all.
I think one of the reasons why u.s. has invaded dozens of sovereign countries after WW2 is that the haven't had a war on their own soil for a couple of hundreds of years. it simply is not real to them. the war is always somewhere else, happening to some other people. and when soldiers are sent back home dead, the relatives are actually surprised that it all turned out like it did!! what the hell were they thinking? it's war, your sons will die, get maimed and go insane. that's what happens in war. nobody comes back from a war unharmed. the few veterans we have left here still wake up screaming every night. after 60 years. it never goes away, and it doesn't stop when the cameras are turned off.
04 Sep 07
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Originally posted by wormwoodYou're hysterical and an obvious reactionary alarmist communist agitator. To the concentration camps with this riff raff.
I've seen some bits where they bomb people from very high altitudes, obviously without any grasp on what they're really doing. instead it's like a videogame for them, and the soldiers actually laugh as they see people getting blown to pieces on their infrared screens. they're high up there, completely safe, untouchable and detached from the reality of war w after 60 years. it never goes away, and it doesn't stop when the cameras are turned off.
Edit: Wonder if we'd feel any different if this was a civil war in Utah or Iowa? Hell, Utah's perfect, the Mormons would make great religious extremist adversaries. I can totally see a door to door urban war in the streets of SLC... it'll probably improve the look.
04 Sep 07
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Originally posted by Hand of Hecategive it twenty years or so. after the u.s. economy crashes down, the wealthier states won't want to pay for the poorer ones, and will want to separate. of course the federal government won't allow the separation. in the midst of all that, the bible belt will want to start a 'christian nation' based on 10 commandments (like the lord's resistance army in uganda), and they'll have a nice, full-blown civil war in utah as well.
Edit: Wonder if we'd feel any different if this was a civil war in Utah or Iowa? Hell, Utah's perfect, the Mormons would make great religious extremist adversaries. I can totally see a door to door urban war in the streets of SLC... it'll probably improve the look.
04 Sep 07
Originally posted by wormwoodThat would make a great PPV special. I see helmet cams... surely they'll have bullet cams by 2027? Perhaps we can have a limited engagement with a particular set of weapons... I'm thinking wrist rocket slingshots and flame throwers. The venue will be downtown SLC... say 20 square blocks? This has real potential... think of the endorsements.
give it twenty years or so. after the u.s. economy crashes down, the wealthier states won't want to pay for the poorer ones, and will want to separate. of course the federal government won't allow the separation. in the midst of all that, the bible belt will want to start a 'christian nation' based on 10 commandments (like the lord's resistance army in uganda), and they'll have a nice, full-blown civil war in utah as well.
04 Sep 07
Originally posted by Hand of HecateThe upcoming apocalypse is NO joke.
That would make a great PPV special. I see helmet cams... surely they'll have bullet cams by 2027? Perhaps we can have a limited engagement with a particular set of weapons... I'm thinking wrist rocket slingshots and flame throwers. The venue will be downtown SLC... say 20 square blocks? This has real potential... think of the endorsements.
04 Sep 07
Originally posted by PalynkaBlame the Chinese "one child" policy.
The upcoming apocalypse is NO joke.
Back on thread:
What was that film about the soldiers, with clooney etc? That was an iraq war film.
I remember the funny line was something like:
"Are we shooting?"
"I dunno, are we shooting?"
BANG
04 Sep 07
Originally posted by Hand of HecateYou will not be able to stay home, brother.
Take it to Spirituality Nancy. If the apocalypse is going down, someone's got to televise it and it might as well be HBO.
You will not be able to plug in, turn on and cop out.
You will not be able to lose yourself on skag and skip,
Skip out for beer during commercials,
Because the revolution will not be televised.
The revolution will not be televised.
The revolution will not be brought to you by Xerox
In 4 parts without commercial interruptions.
The revolution will not show you pictures of Nixon
blowing a bugle and leading a charge by John
Mitchell, General Abrams and Spiro Agnew to eat
hog maws confiscated from a Harlem sanctuary.
The revolution will not be televised.
The revolution will not be brought to you by the
Schaefer Award Theatre and will not star Natalie
Woods and Steve McQueen or Bullwinkle and Julia.
The revolution will not give your mouth sex appeal.
The revolution will not get rid of the nubs.
The revolution will not make you look five pounds
thinner, because the revolution will not be televised, Brother.
There will be no pictures of you and Willie May
pushing that shopping cart down the block on the dead run,
or trying to slide that color television into a stolen ambulance.
NBC will not be able predict the winner at 8:32
or report from 29 districts.
The revolution will not be televised.
There will be no pictures of pigs shooting down
brothers in the instant replay.
There will be no pictures of pigs shooting down
brothers in the instant replay.
There will be no pictures of Whitney Young being
run out of Harlem on a rail with a brand new process.
There will be no slow motion or still life of Roy
Wilkens strolling through Watts in a Red, Black and
Green liberation jumpsuit that he had been saving
For just the proper occasion.
Green Acres, The Beverly Hillbillies, and Hooterville
Junction will no longer be so damned relevant, and
women will not care if Dick finally gets down with
Jane on Search for Tomorrow because Black people
will be in the street looking for a brighter day.
The revolution will not be televised.
There will be no highlights on the eleven o'clock
news and no pictures of hairy armed women
liberationists and Jackie Onassis blowing her nose.
The theme song will not be written by Jim Webb,
Francis Scott Key, nor sung by Glen Campbell, Tom
Jones, Johnny Cash, Englebert Humperdink, or the Rare Earth.
The revolution will not be televised.
The revolution will not be right back after a message
bbout a white tornado, white lightning, or white people.
You will not have to worry about a dove in your
bedroom, a tiger in your tank, or the giant in your toilet bowl.
The revolution will not go better with Coke.
The revolution will not fight the germs that may cause bad breath.
The revolution will put you in the driver's seat.
The revolution will not be televised, will not be televised,
will not be televised, will not be televised.
The revolution will be no re-run brothers;
The revolution will be live.
