@the-grifter saidI don't think you hear news reporters stating things like "the fire actually burned the building" all the time. It is a poor example because I think you have just made it up intending to make it sound like nonsense.
news reporter stating that "the fire actually burned the building".
one hears this nonsense all the time.
07 Dec 23
@the-grifter saidPosting contrived nonsense like this is not evidence that you are right about your theory that the way "actually" is used in nonsense.
jane thinks your post is actually pointless or maybe actually relevant or maybe it is actually inane but she is having to actually going to actually stop writing this post as jane has to actually prepare the cats dinner who will actually eat it.
07 Dec 23
I object to people objecting to the use of the word hopefully at the beginning of a clause or sentence to mean "it is to be hoped that" and insisting that it only means "in a hopeful manner" as if, aside from that one particular usage, it has no other reason to exist.
07 Dec 23
@fmf saidFor thumb transparency: I out i a green one, because I found it nice to actually put "actually" behind the word 😉
the problem is that the word "actually" mostly appears in front of hundreds of verbs in sentences where one would not reasonably at all entertain the jane premise noted above.
While this assertion sounds plausible, I don't think it's true actually.
07 Dec 23
@kewpie saidI nominate: "Point in time", up to now I am unsure why they don't use "moment". Or is "moment" a word that shouldn't exist, because the line between past and future is so thin?
An awful lot of words are misused in the media, so why pick on just this one? This thread should have been titled more inclusively so that we could all pile on with our pet media hates.
- Joined
- 16 Feb 08
- Moves
- 121966
07 Dec 23
@ponderable said“Moment” is usually precise e.g. at that very moment, or at the moment.
I nominate: "Point in time", up to now I am unsure why they don't use "moment". Or is "moment" a word that shouldn't exist, because the line between past and future is so thin?
“Point in time” despite sounding specific is usually used to describe a wider time range. E.g. at the pint in time when life first appeared on earth.
That’s my take on it.
07 Dec 23
@divegeester saidA moment is also an unspecified period of time. If someone asks me to change the bottle in the water dispenser, and I say "Wait a moment", that moment might be as long as an hour.
“Moment” is usually precise e.g. at that very moment, or at the moment.
- Joined
- 14 Mar 15
- Moves
- 29900
07 Dec 23
@the-gravedigger saidAlways, or at this moment in time?
At this moment in time. Very irritating.
12 Dec 23
@the-grifter saidIn fact there is a reason for every word to exist.
" actually ".
"jane bought a bottle of milk". this is a good sentence.
"jane ACTUALLY bought a bottle of milk." the sentence only makes sense if the unstated premise is if one would not expect jane to be able or want to do this.
the problem is that the word "actually" mostly appears in front of hundreds of verbs in sentences where one would not reasonably at all entertain the jane premise noted above.
"Liff" does, but is sorely underused 😉
12 Dec 23
@rookie54 said😂
@the-grifter
actually, it's yer thread title that has no reason to exist