What I hate is when you go into "my games" and look at the list of opponents you're currently playing. Of course you have no games waiting, but some of you opponents have the little green dot next to their name meaning they're online and moving against someone. So you anticipate that they'll be moving in your games soon, but for some inexplicable reason they don't. Then you know they've deliberately chosen to ignore your game for the time being.
Another bothersome thing is opponents you're playing who somehow find time to make long and convoluted posts in the forums, but it's been two days or so since they've found time to make a move in your games. Are they here to play chess or chat in the forums?
The ideal opponent, in my mind, would move three times a day.
Originally posted by rwingettthats a stupid statement.
The ideal opponent, in my mind, would move three times a day. [/b]
the amount of moves a plyer makes depends on the number of moves his opponent makes and in what time they are made.
if my opponent makes 1 move in a day how am i supposed to make 3 in the same game?
FNM
Originally posted by rwingettagain, I fit your descriptions of an annoying opponent. Firstly, if I'm in an opening or I have worked out my next few moves or I have the game won I will move a lot quicker than if I'm unsure what to do next. Therefore, especially if you've got me in trouble, it is likely that I'll move in other games, but I'll only ponder yours and leave it for more analysis later. I haven't "ignored" your game, I just haven't decided on a move yet. Anyway, I never move in all of my games in 1 day, so maybe the opponents I have chosen to move against had been waiting longer.
What I hate is when you go into "my games" and look at the list of opponents you're currently playing. Of course you have no games waiting, but some of you opponents have the little green dot next to their name meaning they're online and moving against someone. So you anticipate that they'll be moving in your games soon, but for some inexplicable reaso ...[text shortened]... y chess or chat in the forums?
The ideal opponent, in my mind, would move three times a day.
I will also post when I have games waiting. Why? Reading the forums & posting doesn't require anywhere near as intense concentration as moving in a hard game so if I come to RHP to relax I'll be more likely to surf the forums than move. I come here for more than to just play chess - is that wrong? IMO, no.
It's pretty clear then that I'm not your ideal opponent. It doesn't mean that I'm being rude or misusing the site though, I just play a different way than you do.
Originally posted by Faith No MoreA stupid statement? That's a little harsh don't you think?
thats a stupid statement.
the amount of moves a plyer makes depends on the number of moves his opponent makes and in what time they are made.
if my opponent makes 1 move in a day how am i supposed to make 3 in the same game?
FNM
I will make as many as 20 moves a day if my opponent moves quickly enough. But I don't expect anyone to do this, nor would I really want them to. I repeat, my ideal opponent would move three times a day.
Originally posted by belgianfreakYou're free to do whatever you want, of course. But that doesn't prevent me from getting exasperated at your perceived lethargy.
again, I fit your descriptions of an annoying opponent. Firstly, if I'm in an opening or I have worked out my next few moves or I have the game won I will move a lot quicker than if I'm unsure what to do next. Therefore, especially if you've got me in trouble, it is likely that I'll move in other games, but I'll only ponder yours and leave it for m ...[text shortened]... mean that I'm being rude or misusing the site though, I just play a different way than you do.
As for myself, I always move in all my games whenever I check in. I've never spent more than 45 minutes on a move (perhaps unwisely) and take less than three minutes on about 98% of my moves. But again, that's just me. Take it for what it's worth.
Originally posted by rwingettand that of course is fine too. I'm not trying to define the 'correct' way to play here, but when people state that they can't understand why anyone would want to move so slowely I try to give them a view of the other persons perspectiveso that maybe they'll understand and not get annoyed. Like you said, you perceive my slow play as lethargy, I view it as cautiousness. To each their own.
You're free to do whatever you want, of course. But that doesn't prevent me from getting exasperated at your perceived lethargy.
As for myself, I always move in all my games whenever I check in. I've never spent more than 45 minutes on a move (perhaps unwisely) and take less than three minutes on about 98% of my moves. But again, that's just me. Take it for what it's worth.
Originally posted by Faith No MoreI don't think it is. Although rwingett probably meant to say that --for rwingett-- the ideal opponent moves roughly the same number of times per day that he does, which on average boils down to about three times per day...
thats a stupid statement.
My perfect opponent moves a couple of times a day, has a great sense of humor and sn't too shy to display it while chatting, and is ALMOST as good at chess as I am... (That last wish is one I don't mind dropping if you work for Microsoft or another megacool company, and you tell me about what it's like to work there. Maybe even send me a sweatshirt from the company giftshop... Paul R., where are you? We miss you.)
Originally posted by rwingettand I take less than three minutes on about 98% of my moves.[/b]I think I take maybe 5 seconds on about 98% of my moves, and 25 seconds regretting that I did not take three seconds more than that, on 25% of those 98%. (And I'm not trying to be funny here!)
Which may account for the fact that I'm having trouble crossing the 1500 point limit.
Originally posted by Faith No MoreYou made a stupid statement not Rwing. He stated an opinion, wich cannot be judged by anyone but Rwing himself.
thats a stupid statement.
the amount of moves a plyer makes depends on the number of moves his opponent makes and in what time they are made.
if my opponent makes 1 move in a day how am i supposed to make 3 in the same game?
FNM
As for my opinion on all this. Don't take so long on your moves! It's extremely frustrating to go for days with 2 gmes waiting per day. No i cannot take on more games, for when everyone moves at the same time i cannot handle more then 25 games max. If i do play more then that i will make serious mistakes i woudn't make otherwise.
When i come here, i move all games waiting. Though sometimes i'm not sure what to do, and i skip the game. Then when all other games have been done, i return to that one and take my time thinking. I keep thinking until i have found a move. I don't understand how people need days to come up with a single move. It's simply looking at all possible moves, discarding the ones leading to a bad result, then looking further then 2/3 moves to see wich is best. This takes never more then 10 minutes in my mind.
AFTER that i go to the forums and start posting, so any games coming up then may have to wait a bit because i'm posting at that time.
I make unlimited moves per day if my opponent is online as well. That is until i have to go offline 🙂
Originally posted by TheMaster37if you wanted to play a game where your opponent moved every day why didn't you start a game with a 1 day time out? If you are in a game with a 7 day TO then you have no right to complain if your opponent takes 7 days because that's what you agreed upon when you started.
You made a stupid statement not Rwing. He stated an opinion, wich cannot be judged by anyone but Rwing himself.
As for my opinion on all this. Don't take so long on your moves! It's extremely frustrating to go for days with 2 gmes waiting per day. No i cannot take on more games, for when everyone moves at the same time i cannot handle more then 25 g ...[text shortened]... unlimited moves per day if my opponent is online as well. That is until i have to go offline 🙂
I'm glad that you're good enough at this game to come up with up to 25 moves a day. I can't, so I'll continue to take my time thank you.
Like now. I've just got back form the gym and I'm exhaused, far too tired to think in depth over a tricky position (or probably even an easy one) so I'm not going to move any tonight.
I don't start 1 day timouts because, occasionally, i can't come online for a day or two. I prefer my offline days to fall in my timout period (I'm from the no-timebank period). So that my timebank is reserved for other important things as vacation.
With the timeout limit, i only agree on playing a game of chess with that time limit. That does NOT mean you can make people await your next move while you're perfectly able to think up a decent move time and time again.
You do have your move frequency set to the lowest game speed you play, wich is perfect 🙂. What is wrong with staring at the board some time longer? Most of the time you'll find a move and be able to execute it immedeately. Take the time to play your games here, don't rush everything and end up having to skip the harder games.
You can't move after going to the gym? Heh, i always found it very relaxing to crash into a chair and let my mind to some work while my body rested 🙂
Originally posted by rwingettcome on rob, dont start acting all hurt and insulted after this little slip.
A stupid statement? That's a little harsh don't you think?
I will make as many as 20 moves a day if my opponent moves quickly enough. But I don't expect anyone to do this, nor would I really want them to. I repeat, my ideal opponent would move three times a day.
me, you and the majority of RHP know that you have posted and will post in the future stuff much more insulting then this.
all i meant is that your statement doesnt make any sense.
no intention of calling you stupid or anything.
maybe I said it a bit to roughly, but its all in a humoros atitude.
as for TheMaster37, I thank you for sharing your 'wizdom' with us on this issue, but i think that rwingett is a big boy and doesnt need any help from you.
That does NOT mean you can make people await your next move while you're perfectly able to think up a decent move time and time again.unfortunatly, you are wrong. If I have 7 days to make every move then I have 7 days to make every move if I so chose. That's the 'contract' of the game.
I don't find your explanation for not playing 1 day TO's very good. If you want to save TB for vacation then start your games with more of it, some for the off line days and some for vacation (is there a limit to the amuunt of TB that a game can start with?). I'm from before TB also but I have no problem with it.
To belgianfreak. If i had a 1 day TO with max timebank, most of my games would have less then a week TB left when i would go on vacation.
My statement isn't wrong, you just interpreted it wrong, let me put it in other words:
Suppose you can spend more time thinking on moves. Suppose you are metally and physically perfectly alright. Then it's rude to skip games. If you CAN move, you SHOULD move. No use in postponing a game simply because you don't want to think about it longer then 5 minutes (in that case you should've picked lower rated opponents)
To Faith No More. I know he can, you were just terribly in the wrong by calling his opinion stupid. Being a moderator on another site kinda made my post to you an auto-reply 😛